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Hi Nic have been looking at my Brother in Law's WELCH family and have a Jessie BROWN b August 28, 1883 (Unknown Location), the only Jessie BROWN I located born on that date was the  daughter of Sarah Ann & William BROWN (NZ BDM Birth ref 1883/13646-Brown -Jessie -Sarah Ann-William). Jessie BROWN married Ethelbert Joseph James WELCH February 5 1907 at Masterton, NZ (TBC). Jessie WELCH died October 6 1959 at Masterton. There was one child that I am aware of at this stage Rewi Braithwaite WELCH 1908-2001 Rewi had 2 marriages M1 Rose Maleta DONNELLY 1938, Rose died in 1940 M2 Isobel June WATT 1943.

I have only just started to look at this twig but looks like it could be connected especially given Rewi's second given name Braithwaite.

Cheers Brian       

Hi Sue are you still looking for information about the Pickett family line? Maybe not after 5 years

I am on a similar path with an interest in a daughter born to William Pickets 3rd marriage Alice Maude Pickett b1874 her mother was Eliza Hamm, Eliza had a previous marriage to a John Cooper, Eliza Cooper and William Pickett married abt 1872.

Re your comment about the UK Census did you look under Pickell? there is a family under this name in the 1871 Census civil parish of Witney; William Pickell 39 Head, Louisa 24 Wife, William son 9, Louisa dau 7, Clara Ann dau 4, Elizabeth dau 3.

I mention above I believe William had 3 marriages

1 Phoebe Douglas b abt 1838 married 1860 record on FreeBDM, William and Phoebe had 2 children WIlliam & Louisa. Phoebe died in June Q 1865.
2. Louisa Douglas (not confirmed) I was unable to locate a marriage between William and Louisa Douglas I do believe that Louisa was the younger sister of Phoebe Douglas and was born about 1847 this is only speculation on my part! Louisa and William had 2 children Clara Ann and Elizabeth

If the Census record in 1871 is in fact this family then the timeline certainly fits it is apparent that some tragedy struck the family in 1872 with the deaths of Louisa, Clara Ann and Elizabeth I am looking for this information!

3. Elizabeth Cooper nee Hamm married 1872 record on freeBDM, William and Eliza had one child Alice Maud born 1874 in the UK the family them emigrated to NZ in Dec 1874 from Portsmouth on the Baron Aberdare arriving Auck NZ March 1875. The passenger mainfest I have viewed showed the Prickett family (another spelling varient) William 43, Eliza 30, Louisa 11, Alice Maude 4; there was no sign of the son William who would have been aged 13 from other research I know he came to NZ as well. There were 7 children born in NZ to Eliza and William.

If you have moved forward and found your information and wish to collaborate please respond as I still have many unanswered queries!             

Thanks Trish1120 & Denmart18.

I concur with your feedback/comments and while not true in all cases there are certainly situations where details entered on records have proven to be incorrect and this is certainly looking the case for our Richard Andrews.

Death record for Richard is July 6 1932, the age on his death is recorded as 86. The marriage record shows Richard at August 5 1878 DOM to be 30, to Margaret aged 19, at Oamaru NZ. The 2Q 1847 is  closer fit that what I had previously.

Thanks again and I appreciate your interest.     

Bearing in mind the information that McDonnell & McDonald are interchangeable maybe another clue.

I have a copy of a death record for a Margaret Andrews (widow) died March 1938 aged 86 years in Oamaru, NZ, shown as Married to a Richard Andrews. Margaret's father shown as William McDonald (Farmer), Mother listed as Margaret McDonald. Birth place shown as Cork, Ireland. Religion Roman Catholic. Number of years in NZ 66 which would put immigration 1871-73 period and DOB 1851-53 period

I had dismissed or felt this record as being for the incorrect Margaret due to the number of inconsistencies i.e. Birth Place, Age information inconsistency across records, Issue (Children) Living & age inconsistencies, Surname.

If date /age information is correct it would have had Margaret at 20 years or so when she immigrated to NZ! I not sure if it was common for young ladies of that age to be unaccompanied / single in that period undertaking such an adventure?   

Hi Dave thanks for the encouragement, I am no where near giving up on my GGM just yet! The clues I have are as follows'
1) A copy of an official birth record for a Son William James Andrews (my GF) born to Richard & Margaret Andrews 6 Sept 1890 Oamaru NZ, the maiden name recorded on the report for Margaret is McDonnell. born County Monaghan, Ireland. The conflicting information on BR show William's parents marriage as 1877 5 August.
2) A copy of an official death record for Richard Andrews Q"To Whom Married" shows his wife's maiden name as Margaret McDonnell aged 73, age at time of marriage 31 (this is suspect or could be 21 very hard to decipher).
A conflicting clue:
3) Located a marriage record for a Richard Andrews to a Margaret McDonald (note surname difference) date 5 August 1878, Oamaru (diff between the date recorded on Son William James BR probably an error). Age for Margaret shown on MR is 19 which puts birth in the 1858-59 period. It is possible this MR is wrong although official BDM record search in NZ do not list any other R&M marriages in the period.
4) search of immigration / passenger lists thus far show only one McDonnell family arriving Auckland NZ 6 Sept 1855 a Mr & Mrs McDonnell with 6 Children (no names or country of origin) I noted this and kept searching as arrival date prior Margaret's set DOB. There are still many passenger lists to troll through. 
I do not yet have a correct copy of Margaret's death record and thus far no mention of her mother or fathers name.
Cheers & thanks again for your feedback