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Shane, many thanks for the helpful guidance. Yes the death record was from the BMD, I had assumed the IGI meant everything from the familysearch website.
Darrin

Wondered whether traditional naming convention might help find the right Patrick. You noted a little doubt earlier over the correct Elizabeth Higgins b. 1841. Of the 3 potential Elizabeths on the IGI, I agree the b.1841 seems the most viable (the other 2 are less viable on account of either age or distance). Her parents of course are Martin Higgins and Anne McEvee, whilst our elusive Patrick’s parents are either Patrick and Mary (as per Patrick b.1843) or Michael and Brigid (as per b.1842). It seems that Patrick b.1843 is the more likely as it would follow that Patrick and Elizabeth named their first son after her father, their first daughter after his mother, and second daughter after her mother. Convention would normally dictate the first son after the fathers father, but perhaps felt that 3 generations of Patricks was too much and hence went with her father – and they did eventually call their last son Patrick. By contrast, looking at the other Patrick then there is no regard to convention as his fathers name was never used (Michael) and the mothers name not used until the 6th and last daughter.

The slight concern I have is that one of the other Elizabeths, b.1845, well her mother is Mary Henery. This could well be where the unusual name Henry comes in (2nd son).

Darrin

Tom,
Regards the 1901 Census entry for Betty, Henry and Patt, I've just been reading the following on http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/

"5. Keep in mind that age data for some adults was in many situations an approximate age. There were many adults who reported being 50, 60, 70 or 80 rather than their actual age."

Beginning to think they must be the correct Traceys - what do you think ?
Darrin

Tom,
My grandfather Patrick can confirm the family links to the Knockcroghery claypipe factory. This was often discussed when he was growing up. The earlier reference in this forum to Whytes (or Whites) factory in Glasgow is also relevant as he can also confirm that his grandfather worked there. Have you seen the Knockcroghery visitor centre website at www.oghamwish.com/claypipe-centre.php

PS. I'm making good progress tonight on Patrick Tracey's (b. 1842) parents and grandparents back to abt. 1800

I've just purchased the marriage record from rootsireland. Patrick Tracy to Elizabeth Higgins 11/01/1861. Tom, I'll email you the record. Theres very little additional info on it, just 2 witnesses Michael Moore and Catherine Higgins. Parish is Knockcroghery and marriage is definitely RC. Nothing else noted.

Darrin