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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with place name please Limerick Ireland
« on: Thursday 15 May 25 23:49 BST (UK) »
Thankyou aghadowey and heywood - Limerick it is!
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with place name please Limerick Ireland
« on: Thursday 15 May 25 13:56 BST (UK) »
Here is the complete Betham extract for handwriting comparison. The Limerick in the second
last line perhaps appears different to the unknown word.
last line perhaps appears different to the unknown word.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with place name please Limerick Ireland
« on: Thursday 15 May 25 13:50 BST (UK) »
Thankyou aghadowey, I agree it could be Limerick. Thankyou also for the link.
LH Thankyou, yes to both your questions re James Smyth.
Regards,
Jen.
LH Thankyou, yes to both your questions re James Smyth.
Regards,
Jen.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with place name please Limerick Ireland
« on: Thursday 15 May 25 04:09 BST (UK) »
Need help with place name for James Smyth who resided in Co. Limerick, Ireland.
Thankyou,
Jen.
Thankyou,
Jen.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: George Smyth probate
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 09:42 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Macwil and Alan for all the information on George Smyth it is much appreciated.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: George Smyth probate
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 07:44 BST (UK) »
Thankyou macwil. I don't know anything about George Smyth, he is brother of James Smyth
a direct ancestor. This record is from Ireland possibly Dublin.
Jen.
a direct ancestor. This record is from Ireland possibly Dublin.
Jen.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / George Smyth probate
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 06:57 BST (UK) »
Is it possible that this genealogical extract from Family Search for George Smyth says he is
Baron of the Exchequer? Could someone explain what this title means please?
Would the first date be his date of death and perhaps the second date the date of probate?
Regards,
Jen.
Baron of the Exchequer? Could someone explain what this title means please?
Would the first date be his date of death and perhaps the second date the date of probate?
Regards,
Jen.
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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 10:55 GMT (UK) »
I will reserve judgment on that jc26red until I can see the registers of St. Mary and St John both
churches that recorded baptisms of the George Maunsell family. Not every child of George Maunsell
has been recorded by researchers. Just today I located a daughter of George and Frances, Helena,
who died in 1805, there could be several more as there are gaps in the baptism dates of their
children. Added to this Mary's daughter Frances Maria bears a remarkable likeness to the image
of her possible uncle Rev. Robert Maunsell. She is a Maunsell descendant and has a connection
to the Frances Fitzgerald Magrath line but where she fits into that line remains to be discovered.
Limerick General Advertiser 10.1.1805 (death) Last Sunday evening at the Customs House Miss Helena Maunsell daughter of George Maunsell Esq. Collector.
LGA (marriage) 22.5.1812. On Friday last (15/5) by special licence at Monkstown church near Dublin Thomas Grady jun. Esq. of Belmont County Limerick to Julia, eldest daughter of George
Maunsell Esq.
This is the daughter of George Maunsell's marriage to Anne Smythe and noted in reply #9 by
jc26red.
Freeman's Journal 21.8.1793 At the Customs House Limerick the lady of George Maunsell Esq.
Collector, of a daughter.
So here are two daughters not previously mentioned by researchers, I can't dismiss the
possibility of the existence of Mary.
churches that recorded baptisms of the George Maunsell family. Not every child of George Maunsell
has been recorded by researchers. Just today I located a daughter of George and Frances, Helena,
who died in 1805, there could be several more as there are gaps in the baptism dates of their
children. Added to this Mary's daughter Frances Maria bears a remarkable likeness to the image
of her possible uncle Rev. Robert Maunsell. She is a Maunsell descendant and has a connection
to the Frances Fitzgerald Magrath line but where she fits into that line remains to be discovered.
Limerick General Advertiser 10.1.1805 (death) Last Sunday evening at the Customs House Miss Helena Maunsell daughter of George Maunsell Esq. Collector.
LGA (marriage) 22.5.1812. On Friday last (15/5) by special licence at Monkstown church near Dublin Thomas Grady jun. Esq. of Belmont County Limerick to Julia, eldest daughter of George
Maunsell Esq.
This is the daughter of George Maunsell's marriage to Anne Smythe and noted in reply #9 by
jc26red.
Freeman's Journal 21.8.1793 At the Customs House Limerick the lady of George Maunsell Esq.
Collector, of a daughter.
So here are two daughters not previously mentioned by researchers, I can't dismiss the
possibility of the existence of Mary.
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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Sinann, I wondered about the wording of the marriage report as well. George Maunsell
of Milford died in 1835. There is a news report of 11th Sept. 1830 in the Dublin Evening Post
noting that George Maunsell, late Collector of Limerick has debts and schedule of same may be
applied for. I have not read the complete article on FindMyPast only the extract. It appears he has
resigned from his position as Collector on a yearly pension of 1,500 pounds which reverted to the
Crown upon his death. So it is possible that he left Limerick prior to this news report of 1830
possibly around the time of Mary's wedding and the wording refers to this. The question needs
to be asked as to how much credence should be given to a newspaper report and its wording.
It is far more convincing to have church records that confirm or refute any hypothesis.
It would appear that his money issues may have persisted as his will of 1834 retracts earlier
settlements of 6,000 pounds for each of his children and reduces that amount to 2,000 pounds,
so he was not completely penniless! Considering that the Griffiths valuation of Milford House,
his residence, was only 25 pounds his monetary assets were considerable. He jointly owned
a private bank in Dublin in partnership with 2 of his brothers.
of Milford died in 1835. There is a news report of 11th Sept. 1830 in the Dublin Evening Post
noting that George Maunsell, late Collector of Limerick has debts and schedule of same may be
applied for. I have not read the complete article on FindMyPast only the extract. It appears he has
resigned from his position as Collector on a yearly pension of 1,500 pounds which reverted to the
Crown upon his death. So it is possible that he left Limerick prior to this news report of 1830
possibly around the time of Mary's wedding and the wording refers to this. The question needs
to be asked as to how much credence should be given to a newspaper report and its wording.
It is far more convincing to have church records that confirm or refute any hypothesis.
It would appear that his money issues may have persisted as his will of 1834 retracts earlier
settlements of 6,000 pounds for each of his children and reduces that amount to 2,000 pounds,
so he was not completely penniless! Considering that the Griffiths valuation of Milford House,
his residence, was only 25 pounds his monetary assets were considerable. He jointly owned
a private bank in Dublin in partnership with 2 of his brothers.