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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Friday 23 March 12 04:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Bobbi,

First don't worry about reinburshing me for anything !!

I'm sure there is a way of finding it out.

The rootsireland.ie website uploads these records as they find them.

Regards the Baptism of Bridget Rainsford in 1829
It is an ongoing thing, so it really depends on when they find it and upload it. !

The Baptism will have the Fathers name on it.

2 - Also you can email the Kilkenny Genealogy Society.
I will send u the email in a private message.

Conclusion
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I think your closer to finding the answer !!
The reason being that I found one on their webiste from 1750 only last dec so it's only a matter of time.

genesearch




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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Thursday 22 March 12 23:27 GMT (UK)  »
I found this query from 2005 - i was wondering if it has any relevance to your Bridget Rainsford.


Classification: Query
Edited: 24 Nov 2005 4:35PM
Surnames: Rainsford, Thompson, Stone, Allcock, Spiers
Bridget Rainsford born Dublin or Castlecomer in 1831 or 1828.
She married Joseph Thompson, had a baby in Dublin in 1852, and moved to England by 1856.

Surnames that marry into the Thompson family are Stone, Allcock and Spiers.

Has anyone run across Bridget and her kin?

Thank you.

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Can u tell me any information on far you have got with any brothers and sisters she may have had around 1850's etc. She would have been 22 then right??

Here's how u can do this:
Go to rootsireland.ie
You can conduct searches for these years say 1850 and press +or - 20 years.
A whole list will display.

Then unfortunately you have to pay, via visa card to view the records.

NOTE - I just checked their website and they have upgrade it just TODAY of all days.

I have found 3 marriages from Castlecomer :

1 Marriage : 29-OCT-1848 Elizabeth "Betty" Rainsford to John Brennan.
2 Marriage:    6-FEB-1841  Catherine Rainsford to Thomas Purcell.
3 Marriage :    3 -FEB -1860  Mary Rainsford to Brian Doyle.

The reason I asked do you know if Bridget had any brothers and sisters because you could find out
if any of the above are related to her.

Then use that to see if the siblings can lead you to a Father or Mother.

Hope this helps u along the way !!

Genesearch1




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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Tuesday 13 March 12 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I've done some work on the Joseph Michael Rainsford and those Plantation Acres In Kilkenny.

UPDATE
It turns out these Plantations were from an earlier Plantation from Ulster.
Namely Presbyterians from Scotland.

Joseph Michael Rainsford Descent
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This Joseph Michael Rainsford is descended from a Michael Rainsford from Blessington Co. Wicklow.
Michael Rainsford was a GUNSMITH and some various businesses in Dublin City circa 1750's.

OUTCOME
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I think I have finally cracked the lineage to this Michael Rainsford.

However there were MANY Rainsford's coming and going from Kiltegan Wicklow, Hacketstown in Wicklow
and from Carlow.
These were constantly moving back and forth from Kilkenny and Queen's County now Co. Laois and Athy Kildare.

I suspect my lineage comes from Wicklow and more specifically the Kiltegan Rainsford's.

Thank you to all for your support.
There were many red herrings and badly Transcribed BMD's from various websites.
I got a lot of help from Archivists in Dublin City over the last 3 months.

Take Care all.
Genesearch1

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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Sunday 01 January 12 12:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

try 'rootsireland.ie' - its an Irish online site that shows BMD's ( Birth Marriages and Deaths ).
This was superb for me when tracing my roots.

Have u tried using familysearch.org ?  This is a site made by the LDS and it is extremely good also.

What I have  found !!
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My advice is to use these sites, there are quiet a few Bridget Rainsford.

Regards my line, I would have to be a  Bridget Rainsford daughter  born of George Rainsford and Elizabeth Price.

My research has taken me all over the place, so this would have to be the one for you to find also.
I will do a look around for you, but you will have to give me a few days or a few weeks.

Hope what I have sent you will help you along.

Kind Regards
Genesearch1.

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Kilkenny / Re: Henry Hendy Elizabeth Ransford Marriage 1823
« on: Monday 12 December 11 00:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

I think the reason is that the website does not have the actual records, that is why it throws out no matches

To obtain the actual records from the Parish or Church is the only way to find the Fathers name.

One way of doing this is to find the Church and email the Local Bishop or Priest to get the Original Document.

What I have done for instance =
1 I have emailed the bishop of Ossary in Kilkenny to source this Record. No Reply as yet.
2 I will contact the RCB in Dublin 14 to ask them to do a search.

Hope this helps
Genesearch1

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Kilkenny / Henry Hendy Elizabeth Ransford Marriage 1823
« on: Wednesday 07 December 11 19:36 GMT (UK)  »
HI there,

I have a MARRIAGE of Henry Hendy to Elizabeth Ransford on the 05-AUG-1823

They were married in MOTHELL Co. Kilkenny

Henry Hendy
Address - Co Kildare COI

Elizabeth Ransford  -
 Address - Dysert Glebe Kilkenny
Denomination - COI

Does anyone know who this Elizabeth Ransford's FATHER  is ?

Any Help with this would be appreciated.

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Kilkenny / Robert Ransford 1700's or 1736 Birth Kilkenny
« on: Friday 02 December 11 04:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,
I'm trying to find out more about Robert Ransford.
He was the youngest son of Edward Ransford Esq born in St Mary's Kilkenny . Church of Ireland ( COI )

According to will of Edward Ransford Esq  in 1743. He had Eldest Son Edward, Isabella, Martha and youngest son Robert !

I have a birth date for one of Edwards Sons - 17 - Oct - 1736.

The Person on the Baptism I found was given as John Ransford.
However John Ball was given "As Child" which I have since found is not accurate !

So I'm trying to find out more information about this Robert Ransford.

I found a record for St Nicholas Church in Dublin. Roman Catholic ( RC )
7 Feb 1773
Baptism - George Ransford  7 Feb 1773
Father   - Robert
Mother - Bridget

Could this be then Robert Ransford the one born on 17 - Oct - 1736  in St Mary's Kilkenny ?

This would really help me as my line of Rainsford's come from Castlecomer Kilkenny.
Any Help would be appreciated.

Kind Regards
Genesearch1




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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Thursday 01 December 11 00:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Drofsniar,

That is amazing you have found it back to 1760 and to Athy Kildare !
The John Ransford I found on the Baptism for Edward Rainsford Esq and Margaret in St Mary's Kilkenny, I think may have been transcribed wrong.

Today I got an email from the RCB in Braemore Park , Dublin 14.

I asked them to clarify this John Ransford.
An Archivist and the Assistant Librarian checked it ONLY because I had a Date - 17 - Oct - 1736.

They confirmed more or less that the CHILD was given as a John Ball.
However this John Ball is also the Sponsor. He happened to  be the Sherrif of Kilkenny at the time.

So the Name was not recorded at all !!
The Irishroots.ie website transcribed it as John Ransford ! I emailed them  and they assumed the John Ball was meant to be John Ransford.

So this leaves me without a Name for Edward Ransford Esq and Margaret.

I got the email from the RCB Representative Church Body today !

Dear Mr. Rainsford. The St. Mary Kilkenny record for that period is very fragile and is not usable . However because you had a specific date the Archivist has looked at the records and we did find an entry on that date for a baptism of a John Ball son of Edward Ransford Esq. and his wife Margaret.
The Odagh records baptism 1825-1878, marriages 1827-1869 and burials 1824-1869 were all destroyed in the fire in 1922 and we don’t have anything for the dates you are looking for Regards
 

RCB Library
Breamor Park
Churchtown
Dublin 14


As you see not much to go on, to determine if it really is John Ransford.

I will be trying to find out more about the Athy Kildare Rainsford's. I am VERY interested in the Catholic Rainsford's especially from 1760 onwards.

I 'm not sure when my ancestors became Catholic, however I do have a Marriage from 8 Feb 1814, my GG Gfather married Elizabeth Price in Muckalee Castlecomer then.
His brother John Ransford baptised his daughter Mary Ransford a year before in Clashduff Kilkenny on 20 Feb 1813.
Linking this up has proven difficult and more twists and turns than I ever imagined.

I'm sure that I will find the answer somehow.

Is there any way you can send me a brief history of your ancestral links in Athy Kildare from 1760 to 1814 ??

I could look at the births and use google maps to try and find various nearby locations that might give me further clues to my links !!

Kind Regards
Genesearch1

PS - Yes I am interested in a digital copy of the Buckland Book.
I had a look at it briefly in the National Archives in Kildare St, in the Reading Room last week.
If you could send it on I would greatly appreciate that.


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Kilkenny / Re: Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s
« on: Wednesday 30 November 11 15:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Pastmagic,

just an update on the John Ransford Record.

As you see from below not much has changed, and the record does seem to be damaged.

Dear Mr. Rainsford. The St. Mary Kilkenny record for that period is very fragile and is not usable . However because you had a specific date the Archivist has looked at the records and we did find an entry on that date for a baptism of a John Ransford son of Edward Ransford Esq. and his wife Margaret.
The Odagh records baptism 1825-1878, marriages 1827-1869 and burials 1824-1869 were all destroyed in the fire in 1922 and we don’t have anything for the dates you are looking for Regards
 

RCB Library
Breamor Park
Churchtown
Dublin 14

However today in the Registry of Deeds I found a Joseph Michael Rainsford in 1791 and 1792.

The Deed says on 30 - Aug - 1791 a Joseph Michael Rainsford City of Dublin GENT and one ' Broderick' City of Dublin  sold lands in Kilkenny. Deed says "All the Land lying and being in the County of Kilkenny.

Plantation Acres are --   Sandfordscourt -    271 Plantation  Acres
                                      Carigeen           -    380
                                      Coolbricken       -        7                   Acres
                                      Tullaroan             -     38                  Acres

A google maps search shows Sandfordscourt, Carigeen  and Coolbricken approx 5 miles NE of Kilkenny City.
Tullaroan is approx 4 miles East of Kilkenny City.

Other Names on Deed are - 
On First Part - Joseph Michael Rainsford Gent City of Dublin
                     - Rev John Broderick
                     - Rev Lawrence Brook ..( I thinks says Doctor ) - very hard to read.

I have ordered a copy of the Deed but will not have it until next week.

On 2nd part -  James Archdeacon of City of Kilkenny Esquire.
                                               

On 3rd Part = this details the Acres and location 4 miles East and West of Kilkenny City.

What does it all mean ?
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I'm thinking this Joseph Michael Rainsford sells off the Kilkenny Plantation Acres.
However my lineage stays in Castlecomer, and I presume both George and Jonathan ( John ) are born Catholics. So they can not own land.

So by the time they marry in 1814 etc they have just 3 Acres of Land and a House as they are Catholics.

Any help would be appreciated.

Kind Regards
Genesearch1



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