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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Berry family, near Claremorris, Co. Mayo
« on: Tuesday 22 March 22 23:50 GMT (UK)  »
 You might try checking Richard Foy's old website on the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20081119034609/http://academic2.marist.edu/foy/clan/early%20foy.htm

There are multiple pages, see the links at the bottom of the page.

Otherwise dna might help.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Berry family, near Claremorris, Co. Mayo
« on: Sunday 16 January 22 09:55 GMT (UK)  »
Well, it took awhile--but found the missing sisters!

There was one sister who never left Ireland, Sabina "Sibby" Berry, who married Michael Conway in 1862. She died in 1873.

But what about those mysterious 3 other sisters mentioned in Michael Berry's 1903 obituary?

Just recently a cousin was looking at dna matches and found a link to Sarah Berry who married Thomas Kirby. Sarah died in 1916 in Peru, LaSalle County, Illinois and is buried in the same cemetery as Michael Berry, but her obituary and death record didn't give any helpful info. 

While navigating thru the cemetery on findagrave another Berry maiden name appeared, this for an Ann (Berry) O'Dowd who died in 1911. Info from her death record was on her memorial--and it said her parents were Anthony Berry and Sarah Kane. This was slightly confusing, because Joanna Cicely Fennell, a professional genealogist in Ireland, had found a record for a likely sister Ann Berry marrying Michael Fleming in 1849 and having two children. But he married again in 1855, so it was presumed Ann died before then. 

A local friend got Ann (Berry) O'Dowd's obituary--and this time struck gold! 

It listed all six sisters who came to the US:
Mrs Michael Prendergast (Bridget)
Mrs Patrick Mohan (Catherine)
Mrs James Walsh (Margaret)
Mrs Thomas Kirby (Sarah)
Mrs James Trench (Sallie)
And of course Ann, Mrs Patrick O'Dowd

Also listed was a daughter, Mrs Thomas O'Dea (Mary Ann), one of Ann's children with Michael Fleming.

Ann's second marriage, to Patrick O'Dowd, took place on 21 May 1854 at the Old Cathedral (The Cathedral of Saint Louis) in St Louis, Missouri. She is listed under her maiden name, the daughter of Anthony Berry & Sarah Kane, but no mention of her previous marriage. (None on Michael Fleming's second marriage record in Ireland the next year either.)

The siblings are linked on findagrave thru their mother Sarah (Keane) Berry, Find a Grave Memorial 235755256. They are also on the FamilySearch tree and on my Ancestry tree, Steph's 99%.

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Lancashire / Re: cemetery for the parish of Stretford
« on: Friday 05 March 21 23:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks.

I wasn't sure since the webpage I found says "Within the borough of Trafford there is a Crematorium and 5 cemeteries" and lists them. One is Stretford cemetery, but I was worried the register was possibly parish based.

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Lancashire / cemetery for the parish of Stretford
« on: Friday 05 March 21 11:03 GMT (UK)  »
I have a scan of a burial register from deceased online and the heading says "Register of burials in the cemetery, provided under the act 42 & 43 Vict, cap 31, for the parish of Stretford."

Stretford is handwritten, the rest is preprinted.

Would that be for the Stretford Cemetery? On Lime Road, Stretford, Metropolitan Borough of Trafford, Greater Manchester, M32 8HX England.

Or could it be for another cemetery in the parish?

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: George Almond Manchester c
« on: Wednesday 19 December 18 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
Oh my, this is exciting!
I believe that Anthony Berry who married Ethel Almond is my 2nd cousin 3x removed.

If my research & guesses are right...

His parents were Patrick James Berry b 1864– & Mary Alice Tomlinson 1869–
His grandparents were Denis Berry 1831–1893 & Mary Morally 1840–1915

Denis was from the townland of Garryredmond in Co Mayo, Ireland. His surviving siblings all immigrated to the US in the 1880s and the family land went to the Foy family. A Foy descendant researched the Berry family and had Denis & Mary's children's baptisms but no info after the last child born in 1869.

Thru searching I found Denis & Mary in the 1881 census in Stretford, Lancashire, England and the listed children matched up to the Irish baptisms. In 1911 the widowed Mary & two sons are noted as born in Co Mayo. A key clue was the use of the oft used family name of Anthony Berry!

All my research (& guesses) are on ancestry (usa) Steph's 99.9% public tree.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: INANITION
« on: Saturday 20 August 16 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Ditto that it was not just infants...

30 year old woman in 1938, cause of death: inanition, influenza & bro pneumonia, in that order

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Berry family, near Claremorris, Co. Mayo
« on: Wednesday 09 March 16 08:10 GMT (UK)  »
In the ensuing years since this post was started I have learned that Sarah (Keane) Berry was born abt 1796 and died Oct 30, 1885 at Garryredmond, Mayo, Ireland. Her death date had inadvertently gotten attached to her husband Anthony Berry on Rich Foy's website, so it is now found on many trees for him.  However the death certificate is for her, not him.

She died a widow. The South Mayo Heritage Centre says Anthony appears to have died pre civil records (1864). He does not appear in Griffith's Valuation despite being a landholder per Sarah's death certificate, so his death may be pre 1857 (when GV took place in Mayo, or 1856 depending on the source). But then Sarah isn't recorded in GV either. There are a couple of Burys listed there, Dennis & John; assume they are the brothers of Anthony, since he had brothers by those names.

Present at Sarah's death was Thomas Dunleary or Dunleavy of Garryredmond. There are Dunlearys in Garryredmond in 1901 & 1911, as there were in GV, then spelled Dunlavy. Just neighbors or relatives? Unknown.

Her maiden name is listed as Keane in Irish records, Cain in the US.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Berry family, near Claremorris, Co. Mayo
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 08:21 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your message. What is your tree on ancestry? Mine's Steph's 99.9%.

Rich Foy's website has been taken down but some of his Foy family can be found here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=mckeehutton&recno=997   & here's the related website https://curryberrybyrne.wordpress.com/

I've seen the Peter's Pioneers website before. I didn't think it was relevant to Rich's Foys, but still enjoyed reading it. I will check with Rich to see if he thinks the two groups of Foys are related.

Here is the text from his Rich Foy's website page: Early Foys in Ireland including Egan, Berry, Foy, Morley, Murray, Curry, Sweeney

The Claremorris / Knock / Ballyhaunis Triangle

Within County Mayo there is a small triangle of land with vertices at the towns of Claremorris, Knock and Ballyhaunis.  Almost all of the persons on the Foy side of the family can trace their origins to the western portion of this triangle, along the Claremorris-to-Knock road, either by direct descent or by marriage.

About a mile north of Claremorris along the Knock road, another road branches off eastward past the Carmelite Abbey and burial ground (where many Foys are buried) and passes through some hamlets:  Cartronacross (we call it Cartownacross in our family), Knockatober, the Holy Well, and Garryedmond [aka Garryredmond].  A small road branches north at Garryedmond  and a small road branches south from Garryedmond passing through lower Garryedmond (not mentioned on the map, but near the LC or level crossing at the railroad) leading to the Claremorris/Ballyhaunis road near Koilmore (marked Coilmore on the map).

The Egans lived in Cartronacross with fields extending southward towards Drumkeen.  The Berry lands were along the road from Knockatober to Garryedmond.  The Foy family lived in lower Garryedmond.   When Martin and Anthony Berry and their families left for Kansas in 1884, Patrick Foy moved his family onto their farms (along the road leading north from Garryedmond towards Carraun), occupying Anthony Berry's house while Martin's was demolished and a newer structure was built on the site.   William Foye and Michael Foye were born in lower Garryedmond.  William married Ann Halligan and took over a farm in Kilcolman (slightly west of the Claremorris-to-Knock road).

The Morley family was centered at Maugheramore or Magheramore along the Ballyhaunis-to-Knock road.  The Murray family was centered at Lissaniska, also near Knock.  The Murray girls who came to the United States married men from Kiltimagh and Swinford;  perhaps they did not know each other in Ireland, but they located close by when they came to America, a common migration pattern.

The Curry and Sweeney  families lived close to Knock.  One source places Martin Curry's farm in Ballynabrehon, west of the Claremorris-to-Knock road, midway between Claremorris and Knock and close to Kilcolman, where William and Ann Foy farmed.

The Foy family attended the National School at Koilmore along the Claremorris-to-Ballyhaunis road.   The Egans and Berrys attended the Loughaunnaman school east of the Claremorris-to-Knock road.  All groups walked through fields to reach the schools, rather than taking roundabout roads.

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Mayo / Re: Michael Walsh of Farmhill, imm to Illinois, USA c. 1847
« on: Thursday 28 March 13 20:53 GMT (UK)  »
Update:

It appears Michael returned to Ireland from the US.

He is listed in Griffith's Valuation in 1857:

Michl Walsh [Bartly Walsh]*
Lessor:   Marquess Sligo
County:   Mayo
Barony:   Kilmaine
Parish:   Kilcommon
Townland:   Carrowkeel, North
OS Page Numbers:   111

*his father's name after his was to differentiate him from any other local Michael Walsh

Have no birth or death details for Michael, or who, when or where he married, and if they had any children.

His father Bartly died in 1852, and his mother Hanora in 1892.
They are buried in Crossboyne Churchyard

the stone transcription reads:

Lord Have Mercy On The Soul Of
BARTHOLOMEW WALSH
Who Died 11th July 1852
Aged 64 Years.

Also His Beloved Wife
HONORIA WALSH
Died 12 Nov. 1892 Aged 91 Years.

SARAH WALSH, Brookhill
Who Died 16th Dec. 1917
Aged 47 Years.

PETER WALSH, Brookhill
Died 2nd April 1936 Aged 76 Years.

Erected By
Their Son James B. Walsh
Ills, U.S.A.

(would love to have photos of the stone!)

I'm not sure if Peter is directly related to Bartly or Hanora; Hanora's maiden name was also Walsh. His brother married their granddaughter.

-Peter & Sarah were married, she was Sarah O'Malley of Ballinrobe, they had no children. He lived in what was known as the Mill.
Peter's siblings were:
-Mary Anne (1872-1923), married name Gibbons
-Thomas (1868-1940), wife's name Brennan & from Kilbeg, no children, lived in the home house known as Cottontown, also buried in Crossboyne
-James, died & buried in Waterford, said to have business there
-Michael J. (1865-1921), moved to Streator IL & married Sarah Walsh, daughter of James B. Walsh (yes, James B. brother of Michael, sons of Bartly & Hanora)

I'm told there are 4 or 5 different Walsh families in the area of Farmhill!

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