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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Bertha Cowdray - Harbottle?
« on: Sunday 07 July 19 14:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I met Reginald several times in my lifetime. The last was when Hazel bought him to see me. Bertha kept in contact with my paternal Grandmother Annie Pilcher nee Cowdray, here in her birthplace where I still live. It was Annie that bought up Flora Kate, Arthur, Bertha, Ada and Leonard after their Mother left to set up home with Stephen Pannell Norrell. Together Henrietta Cowrdray taking Hettie Nellie their youngest, had five more children of which only two survived a boy and a girl. Annie also kept in contact with Flora Kate (Florence) up until Flora's death and also with Jessie. Very good to hear from you. I was born a Pilcher my Father also a only child, and Reginald visited when I was a child also. Very good to hear from you, Diane x

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Sussex / Re: COWDRAYS WEST SUSSEX
« on: Monday 13 April 09 22:44 BST (UK)  »
 Thank you both. I am now in contact with five of the Cowdray decendants, Alice, Walter and Hettie Nellie's family (renamed Norrell) and Charlie Norrell's family. My research has moved on and now the 1911 census is helping fill in the blanks. I believe my Cowdrays came from south of the Loire Valley in France and settled in Hampshire and Sussex as De Coudrays. Cowdray comes from the French for a Hazel Grove. Every year since I could walk I was dragged off Hazel nutting with my father the same as his mother before him and all previous generations. Each time a girl was born a Hazel tree was planted, except my Father changed this to the child's first Christmas tree. There is no doubt in my mind that this French connection dating to 1066 where the De Coudrays are on the Battle Abbey Scroll. They travelled hear with the De Beaumont family. Still a lot to do but I WILL get there eventually! Thanks again,

                                 Diane ;D

 

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Oxfordshire / Re: Spong family
« on: Monday 03 September 07 21:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Maggie,
                   thank you for that, I will check my records but I would say without a doubt this is the right family. Thank you very much for the time you have taken.

                        Diane ;D

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Walter G Beals - Florence K Cowdrey 1919
« on: Friday 13 July 07 19:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
      thank you for your reply. I am hoping to search for children of this marriage tonight, however as my husband and I are disabled money will stretch so far even though I work and the certificate will have to wait. Interested to see your Sussex conection of Edmonds. I live in Sussex and grew up with a Pete and Leslie Edmonds here in Singleton.
 Back to my search, I suppose in a way I am hoping someone related down the line from Florence or Flora Kate as she was known, may see this posting and get in touch and share photos. Its sad this family became split up and I would so like to reunite them. Below is the half brother Charles Norrel and wife Amelia, that Flora never knew.

                             Diane

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Oxfordshire / Spong family
« on: Monday 09 July 07 21:24 BST (UK)  »
Bessie May Cowdray was born Easebourne, Midhurst, Sussex often wrongly transcribed Eastbourne, circa 1876. The family went on to live in Singleton, Sussex. Bessie was one of eleven children, her mother Henrietta ran off with a Stephen Pannell Norrell and had five more children of which only two survived. The family mostly lost touch with each other, I am now in contact with four and would love to share photos, certificates etc with the others if we can find them. I am the last to live in Singleton.
 Bessie's conection to Oxfordshire is that after marrying a Frederick Spong in the Epsom district of Surrey the family moved to Bicester Market End. In the 1901 Census there is a Frederick Junior aged three and a Bessie M Spong aged 1.
 I am hoping that someone may have or may be researching this family or that someone could let me know what became of this family. I would dearly like to be in contact to share info, thank you for your help, below is a photo of my gran Annie born 1880, Bessie's younger sister,

                             Diane

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Walter G Beals - Florence K Cowdrey 1919
« on: Monday 09 July 07 20:39 BST (UK)  »
 The cambs link is that they were married Wisbech June 1919. I am hoping someone may be researching this family. Flora Kate was one of eleven children. The youngest Hettie b 1891 was taken by her mother Henrietta when she ran off in 1891 to Burnham, Bucks with a man from East Dean and was renamed Norrell. This is my skeleton in the closet as Gran(Annie Cowdray) said she only had three younger siblings. There were later two half siblings. My gran bought up the younger children and Flora/Florence went to live with Annie's older sister Jessie Barber.
 I also have contact with several Cowdray/Norrel descentdents and have photos,certificates and email addresses to pass on. Below is a photo of my Gran Annie and husband Frank.
 Any help or guidance would be appreciated as it would be nice to reunite this family, thanks,

                             Diane

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Bertha Cowdray - Harbottle?
« on: Monday 09 July 07 20:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Pauline,
                  one child Reginald Harbottle, mother Cowdray born 1923 when Bertha would have been 34. Through contact from Canada with the grandaughter of the youngest child (Hettie Nellie), I have a picture of the children below. However Hettie born 1891 was taken when her mother Henrietta ran off with a young man (Stephen Pannell Norrell) from nearby East Dean and was renamed Norrell. This was my skeleton in the closet, my grandmother said she had three younger siblings so I did not know about this until eighteen months ago when I started researching. Infact Henrietta had five more children by the name of Norrell, only two survived, she never divorced and became known as Norrell in Burnham, Bucks where they settled. Penny told me Hettie had a lot of problems when she got married as she had no proof of birth and she never knew that her real name was Cowdray or that she had ten other siblings. I find it all very sad and it has made it very difficult to share all I know with the whole Cowdray clan. I also have contact with one of the grandchildren of one of the two surviving Norrell children.
 Bertha's sister Ada Blanch Cowdray and brother Arthur Henry also reportedly married Hampshire.
 Penny was not forthcoming in helping with Bertha which is sad but there you are,

                                Diane

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Bertha Cowdray - Harbottle?
« on: Monday 09 July 07 13:40 BST (UK)  »
 I believe my grandmothers sister Bertha married a Albert Harbottle, Portsmouth, 1919. One of 11 children, Bertha May Cowdray was born Singleton, Sussex, 1889. I believe she had several children. Any help welcome with my brick wall.

                                 Venusian

 This is a photo of My Gran Annie Cowdray - Pilcher with husband Frank behind,Bertha and Ada Cowdray, with my father cuddling a cousin. I have found the family of three other Cowdrays and been able to share photos.

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Cambridgeshire / Walter G Beals - Florence K Cowdrey 1919
« on: Monday 09 July 07 13:30 BST (UK)  »
I believe Florence is my Grandmothers long lost sister born Florence Katherine Cowdray, Singleton, Sussex 1884 to James and Henrietta Cowdray. In the 1901 census she is living with her married sister Jessie Barber, Edmonton (ancestry- Condray!). Also known as Flora Kate, any help appreciated.

                               Venusian ;D

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