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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Nottinghamshire challenge
« on: Sunday 11 January 15 02:35 GMT (UK)  »
Where to start! One of the researchers I hired suggested purchasing all of the, I think it turned out to be about four, birth records for William Hill 1871-1874 for around that area which I did. Of those there is one born 1874 to Joseph Hill and Mary Ann Hill nee Hayes who I believe goes on to marry an Ada in about 1898. The second was born 1871 also to Joseph Hill and Mary Hill nee Greemfield. The registration district for both is Basford, but the place of birth is Annesley for the first and Ruddington for the second. The second seems to have married an Agnes Dore about 1895 and is a widow by 1911.
I did find one William Hill born 1870 in Shipley Gate in the Basford registration district whose father is John Hill and mother Sarah Hill nee Oakey. The father is listed as a station master and I have not found much on this family which could be a possibility.
Of the three remaining certificates I purchased one is a John William Hill born 1874 in Watnall to Thomas Hill and Mary Ann Hill nee Draper, the next is an unamed boy to James Hill and Sarah Hill nee Sanderson born 1873 in Thrumpton and the last is a boy, William born Dec 1872 in Tuxford to Elizabeth Hill with no father mentioned. The last is I think the William Hill living with grandparents William and Mary Hill from 1881 - 1901, and in the 1891 census he is listed as their son. This one appears to be married to a Florence in the 1911 census.
My William Hill is the one who is a boarder in 1901 living with wife Mary Ann and his occupation is listed as a Sewing Machine Agent - his place of birth is just listed as Nottinghamshire, his marriage certificate lists him as an Insurance Agent. In the 1911 census he is again listed as a Sewing Machine Agent and his place of birth is New Basford. On each of his children's birth certificates he is a Commission Agent, on Daughter Annie's marriage certificate he is listed as a Traveller and on son Walter's marriage certificate he is a Commercial Traveller. His death certificate lists his occupation as a Hawker. I had hoped he would appear in the 1891 census with a similar occupation but have so far had no luck!
What makes it even more difficult is that one of his grandaughters (my mother) was adopted when she was about 14. Her adoptive parents wanted her to have no contact with her birth family and they migrated to Australia when she was about 20, so almost all family relations were severed. She has since made contact with one of her sisters who later died and has met many of her nieces and nephews, but due to family breakdowns little is known of Williams past. I started researching the family tree for my mums 80th birthday and this is the one wall I have failed to break down. I would love to finally find Williams family for her. I have records for 2 of his children Annie & Walter but the third William also remains elusive as it is such a common name for that era.
Janet  :)

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Death or burial lookup 1880s Leicestershire
« on: Saturday 10 January 15 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Carole, names, dobs & place of births are often different from one census to another and also on certificates. I actually have his birth certificate and he was born 1840 so the 1871 census is incorrect. It is possible Sarah might not have been a widow in the 1881 census as I know this was often put down when a husband decided to leave, however on their son Arthur's marriage certificate in 1896 his father is listed as deceased. It is possible that he was buried under the name of Joseph but I have yet to find a death record that seems to fit.
Janet  :o

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Nottinghamshire challenge
« on: Saturday 10 January 15 11:59 GMT (UK)  »
Yes it is quite likely that the name on the marriage certificate is made up, I know that his wife Mary Ann used her grandfather's name as she was born out of wedlock. William died 22 Feb 1962 in Leicester & is buried in the same plot as his wife in Gilroes Cemetery. They lived at the same address of 37 Abbeygate from the 1911 census until their deaths. The witnesses on the marriage certificate are a Harry V Burney & E M Caswell. I have had a look for them but haven't come up with much.
In the two census records of 1901 & 1911 William's birth is listed as 1873 & 1874 respectively, and his death certificate also has his age as 89 so making him born 1873.
I have discounted most of those born in New Basford between 1873-74 who appear in the 1901 census. There are only two exceptions I have found so far - William H Parker who seems to have died before 1891, his father's occupation really fits with my William's occupation, and a William Hill born to an unmarried mother Elizabeth Hill in 1872 and baptised in 1873. If it is the last I have tried to find marriage records for an Elizabeth Hill and subsequent census records but so far have found none with a son named William with the right birth date.
Janet  ::)

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Nottinghamshire challenge
« on: Friday 09 January 15 23:47 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please find the family of this enigma - William Hill. He is in the 1901 census with wife Mary Ann in Nottinghamshire, he is then in the 1911 census in Leicester with wife & children. Have looked at as many possible matches for him in the 1881 & 1891 censuses but none seem to fit. Someone suggested his mother could have remarried & he is listed under the stepfather's name & I have also tried to find him with this information but without success so far. I have his marriage certificate (1901) which lists his father's name as John Hill (Labourer) deceeased. But have been told there are no William Hills born 1873-74 with father John. Have hired 3 different reseachers & not one has found him. So my challenge is for anyone with good sleuthing abilities to find his family.
Janet

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Death or burial lookup 1880s Leicestershire
« on: Friday 09 January 15 23:10 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for a death or burial record for Anthony Joseph Lord, born 1840 Leicester. The last census I have for him is 1871 living with wife Sarah Ann (Ann) Lord nee Moore, children Walter & Arthur & in laws at 79 Oxford Street,Leicester. In the next census Sarah Ann is at the same address with her children & parents, but is listed as a widow. Would appreciate any help in finding his death.
Janet

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Burial record lookup please for Leicester area
« on: Sunday 26 October 14 00:37 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much Wilsy, that is my grandfather along with his sister Mabel and his grandmother Ann. You are a legend!
regards janet  :D

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Burial record lookup please for Leicester area
« on: Saturday 25 October 14 04:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi can anyone help please me with the burial record for Walter Hill death 1934 Billesdon.
Janet

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Leicestershire / Re: Missing Lord
« on: Saturday 21 December 13 23:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Marg,
Sarah Coltman would be a Union Workhouse staff member I think as I have come across her name in other records as well; as an informant in the Workhouse. Abraham's daughter Sarah married a Francis Brown (1837) about 1861 so not the same Sarah, though she and first born son George Turner Brown (1860) are also missing from the 1861 census. Her husband Francis Brown is listed with his parents, no sign of either Sarah or George.

Cheers Janet  :)

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Leicestershire / Re: Missing Lord
« on: Friday 13 December 13 03:40 GMT (UK)  »
The Informant's name is Sarah Coltman who was present at the death in the Union Workhouse Leicester.
Cheers Janet :)

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