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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Tuesday 06 September 11 08:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello Oromai and thank you for this info, I will follow up with an e-mail to your address as I think there may be some connections worth investigating.  Will be in touch.  Spenser.

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Tuesday 30 August 11 11:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello Ladyhawk and thank you for continuing to help me with this.  I would think that either of the first two are more likely as a) you rightly notice the other two are not with the right dates and b) as her son John Scivier, made no provision for her in his Will I am guessing that she passed away before his death in 1865.  It is curious that she should have been listed as the name 'Hannah' in all events where she is presumed present, but perhaps called Ann after her death.  Well, I always knew she was going to be a tricky one!

Well, thank you again and if anything else springs to mind please do let me know as I have a feeling this will be on-going...

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Monday 22 August 11 13:00 BST (UK)  »
hello Ladyhawk,

Hannah is proving very difficult to make sense of!    I can only presume that W was given as a preference to UM at 60 years but with a child,  and so the surname is right and the status wrong especially as her name is on John's birth and I believe marriage certificate as Scivier.
Any ideas on how to take this forward would be wonderful. I've been doing this for just a couple of weeks and don't want to give up on Hannah just yet.

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Sunday 21 August 11 22:35 BST (UK)  »
Hello halhawk,

Thank you for clearing up my confusion, its given me renewed hope of moving on in the right direction, I was stuck at Shamblehurst Farm when I should have been looking at Ratlake.
If anyone knows when Hannah Scivier, daughter of William and Mary Scivier and Baptised 31st October 1802 in Hursley died or better still, where she is buried, I would be delighted to know. In the 1861 census she is 60 years and at Shamblehurst, South Stoneham, so a posible nearest church would be Durley or back to birthplace at Hursley?
Again, thank you for all your help, lovely to have when I'm just starting out.

Spenser

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Friday 19 August 11 15:26 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to everyone who contributed to answering my questions, I am overwhelmed by the response, being new to this I really didn't know what to expect and I realise now that if I have been a bit more forthcoming with some extra detail, I would have made it easier for you to help me.

This is what I have gleaned (and from you all) so far:-

John Scivier B 2nd Feb 1820 in Hursley, M 1865 Droxofrd rd and D 1867 (thank you hanes teulu for details of the will, so interesting). Buried at Durley churchyard.
His mother was Hannah Scivier Baptised in Hursley 31 Oct 1802, M? D?

On John Scivier's marriage to Rebekkah Godrich in 1865 Hannah was not a Witness, instead this cousins Edward and Louisa Godrich are given.   This may mean that I could presume Hannah to have died between the Census of 1861 when she is given as 60 and 1865, John's marrriage do you think a good point to take those 4 years as a searching point?

John Scivier's Will implies to me that he owned the farm,  Do you have any ideas on how I can check how he came to be in possession of the farm, to leave it in a Will means he was not a Tennant? How did he become head of this farm in just 10 years?

An area of confusion for me still is John's father, William Webb and the Ratlake Farm Hursley connection that halhawk kindly raises, in the 1851 there is a John Scivier aged 30 with a Charles Bailey as Head of the House not William Webb.

Any further help/clarification very much appreciated and apologies in advance if my questions seem so glaringly naive with all your experience!

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Thursday 18 August 11 07:44 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for giving me this information so quickly and generously.  What I do know from John's marriage certificate is that his father is given as William Webb, yeoman.  Family speak has it that he was the Squire at Shamblehurst, but I am led to believe that titles were exagerrated sometimes and family stories are wonderfully embellished! So I am stuck with finding out more about him and what happened to Hannah.  With the John you mention you suggest William as a brother.  I have wondered why John was not called William after his father, so this could well be  a brother.  Hannah remains a mystery for the moment, ever onward... and thank you again.

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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Help sought with surname Scivier
« on: Wednesday 17 August 11 21:06 BST (UK)  »
hello, I'm a completely newbie and have read past threads which tell me there are fellow members who have achieved much more than me, so I am hoping for help please with Hannah Scivier born around 1800 in Hursley.  She had a son John Scivier fathered by a William Webb.  I would like to find out more about William, who was he and where did he live? If  he and Hannah married, and if so why neither Hannah nor John took his surname.  When did Hannah die, where is she buried?

Thank you in advance!

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