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Very confusing just found a Abraham Allen aged 70 a widow in 1841 census living in Alcester St, Aston, son John is aged 20 and a horse dealer. daughter Hannah Squelch (ma name) aged 25 a Green Grocer, another son John aged 13 and a daughter Emma 11, plus a Abraham son of Joseph and Hannah was baptised in Kingsnorton 24/06/1768

So I have an Abraham with a son who is a horse dealer and a daughter who is a green grocer lots of coincidences, need to collate and eliminate I think.. I also have a Abraham Allen dies in 3rd quarter 1860 if I could find the 1851 census that might help, thanks for all the help

Well that sounds pretty likely the wedding is between Abraham Allen a Batchelor and Elizabeth Smith a spinster both sign with a cross, the witnesses are Pharaoh Smith who signs his own name and a Mary Smith who signs with a mark so possibly as you suggest and I think highly likely that these 2 could be the bride's Brother and sister, given the age at death of your Pharoah it is possibly the brother, Wednesbury is close to Hill Top West Brom and Brum not that this proves anything  so thank you just need to see if I can link the Wednesbury event with Elizabeth is their also a Mary baptised at St Bartholomew ? to parents Joseph and Elizabeth.. spelling is slightly different but it is I think an unusual name anyway, regarding the Auction and its location it seems to identify a Pharaoh Smith in the Bordesley area, thanks you very much I have something more to go on, interesting that he signed his own name on the Wedding Cert and appears to be on a Tenancy would you think this signifies someone with a level of education.. well done Guys thank you..   

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You are definitely correct with the wedding being incorrect the wedding details confirm that brides father was a John Jones records from Alberbury suggest that our Thomas's father was another Thomas, I have checked the census's I have for the family in Bilston with Elizabeth being from Minera which is to the West of Wrexham and to the North of Ruabon, Thomas was born and baptised in Alberbury and the family have links with Ruabon, so all I need to find is where Thomas and Elizabeth were married the eldest child seems to have been baptised in April 1829 in Bilston at St Leonards, so it seems possible that either St Mary's or St Leonards in Bilston could be the scene of the crime, I have so far failed to find the 1861 census for either Thomas and Elizabeth or the daughter Ann and her husband Alexander, I have Alexander and Ann at Penegros near Machynlleth in 1871, there is also a wedding in Alberbury with a Thomas Jones and a Elizabeth Williams 30/12/1828 which may be a bit close to the eldest childs baptism in Bilston 19/04/1829 so I will pursue with diligence amongst other things.. thank you for your help

I need a few more details to confirm if as you imply you are correct once established and should you be proved correct then a most abject apology will follow, thank you so much for your help it is so appreciated, I will continue to delve...