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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Tuesday 29 November 11 13:00 GMT (UK)  »
hi there,

nice to here on the Walthews Walto. It appears that my Walto were from Nenah in Tipperary. Not sure on the early history yet of there time in Ireland, but suspect that they may have fleed to the hills of Keeper, Tipperary for Refuge, an early royalist family in ireland abt 1635?

They were certainly at Newport in Tipperary prior to 1795, were the birth of Catherine is registered at the Newport, RC Church. Parents Jacob Walto and Catherine Fitzgerald. Sibling Michael, Jacob and Edward. ( suprising but thes eearly records, including the children of Catherine and William are available at the RC Church)

Catherine Married a William Kennedy, Born 1795, possibly the son of William Kennedy and Bridget Ryan. Not sure where this William fits into Clan Kennedy, but his the same generation as my 5 x Great Grandfather Long Andrew Kennedy from Tour.

They resided at Bleanbeg, they can be seen on the Griffiths valuation for Kilanarth, North Tipperary, think also the religous cencus, what? 1776?

Catherine had many children, some of who migrated to australia, mainly Edward and John to date. Possibly Catherine, all children of William Kennedy.

At this point in time, i have not investigated the marriages of Catherines Siblings, but will do one day.

I believe that the  Edward Kennedy that came to australia was part of the early influx to Victoria Australia, he had a cousin, my 3 x G Grandfather and 2 nephews and a niece, all came after his arrival.

Thats about all I have, hope it is of some help.

Regards,

Paul Barrett


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Tipperary / Re: Johanna Ryan
« on: Saturday 15 October 11 01:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi my name is Paul Barrett. I am researching my family histrory, the Kennedy family, from this region. there are as you would expect numerous Ryan Kennedy marriages.

I have however a James Ryan, who was born according to his marriage certificate abt 1851, Co Tipperary, Father John Ryan, Mother Mary Hammersley., a search of the australian records shows 1 other a Mary Ann Ryan, whos parents are listed as John Ryan and Margaret Hammersley, Holywood, Tipperary.  James had been married previously, and is listed as widower, 38 at the time of this marriage.

Irish roots show 2 James Ryan Born John amd Margaret Hammersley, in Clonmurragha, Kilcommon baptied 1852, and 1856.

James was living in Walhalla, a miner, he married a Ellen Hellena Agnes Warne, B Co Tipperary in 1889. They had 3 children, of which 2 survied Henry Graham Royce Ryan B 1891, Died 1892. John Gladston Ryan (Jack) B 1892 and Henry Gratton Ryan B 1894.

James died 1897, and Ellen or Nellie went on to marry a Edmond Kennedy, who was the son of William, the Son of Denis Kennedy, from either Toor, or Keeper, in Tipperary.

Also of interest is a Patrick kennedy, B 1802 Tipperary Ireland, the son of Andrew Kennedy and Catherine Ryan. Still to figure him out, but he had dealings with this Henry Warne, of Walhalla, who had considerable minning interests in the region.

Johanna is also a common name in the naming patterns of the Ryans and Kennedys of the region.

Not much help, but maybe rings a bell?

Regards,

Paul


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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Saturday 13 August 11 11:45 BST (UK)  »
hi,

new to this particular message board, so quick intro.

Paul Barrett, studing my personal family tree approxamately 5 yrs. Current interests.;

I am predomantley of protestant english and irish heritage, except for 1 marriage of G Grand on mothers side who married an Irish Catholic daughter of a farmer in Gippsland Victoria Australia.

Annie Kenndy. Her Grandfather was a Hugh Kennedy, Born 1809 Knocknemerough, Ireland, transported to Australia for 7 years for Larceny.

His wife Jane Fox, maried in Doon Limmerick, 1834. Jane received free passage to Tasmania with her children Mary B 1843, Andrew B1845 Hugh B 1846 (died infant) Jeriamiah B1847, born Tipperary and Limmerick. James B1860 port Sorrell, Vic

I am currently researching some additions to this family that has popped up on Ancestry, including nephews and nieces that have turned up in Australia, Both in Gippsland Victoria and Kilmore in Victoria. A difficult task that has me looking at potentially unrelated families in the region.

I have found a link with a family between the 2 areas, that at the moment seems not a dirrect relationship, but I am suspicious.

Parantage for these 2 children are William Kennedy Married Anne Walthew.

Children;
Edward B 1824 Tipperary.
John B 1835 Tipperary.

Edward lived close by to my ancestors, but died unmarried in 1878, age sixty, felling a tree on his property. Inquest and death have death cert and will Buried under the catholic rite, john was witness at burial.

In his will he left his farm to a brother John of Broadford Victoria. I have located John. Married a Anne Sheedy, in Melbourne at the Catholic Church under the catholic rite. 1858. ( Edward reports being in Victoria from 1866, no mention of a stay in Tasmania, although that may not have been disclosed).

Living next door to John Kennedy in Broadford, is Rody Kennedy of Donnybrook. I believe that Rody was a convict sent out on Duke of Richmond 1844, sentenced to seven years, reason Unk at this stage. Rody Married a Margaret Shedy, which was how I uncovered John, due to the mother / wife name, similarity.

Looking for any more information on the Walthew name in Ireland. I can see that there was;

"Walthew        Mich.             Rossaguile                Killoscully     Tipperary"
"Walthew        Michael           Rossaguile                Killoscully     Tipperary"
"Walthew        Michl.            Rossaguile                Killoscully     Tipperary"
"Walthew        Winifred          Rossaguile                Killoscully     Tipperary"

"Griffiths valuation ireland"

This area is predominately where my Kennedys originated from, according to the research of From "Bun Ciamalta Vale to New South Wales" [Paperback]. Roger Kennedy (Author)

also;
"Irish Kennedys" Brian Kennedy.

Have already picked up new links from this terrific site. Would appreciate any help with Catherine Walthew of Tipperary, and her family. Also William Kennedy her husband

Thanks in anticipation, (marriage cert of John attached)

Cant locate his death yet.

Regards,

Paul Barrett



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