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Australia / Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 10:17 BST (UK) »
Many thank - I had found them earlier today.
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Australia / Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 09:15 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the probate details. Funny I didn't find it before as I searched Ancestry.com for Frances Bailey, Mensforth and Knowles and for some reason she didn't appear in the probate list.
Now for the mystery of the second? child....
Now for the mystery of the second? child....
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Australia / Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 04:18 BST (UK) »
Hi
There were no children registered (births or deaths) to Robert and Maria Knowles until a couple of years after their marriage.
Robert KNOWLES, b. DEC QR. 1838 in Axbridge Somerset ENG, d. 30 May 1917 in "Cheddar" Marlborough Street St Peters SA.
He married Maria BAILEY, 6 Aug 1863 in Christ Church North Adelaide SA, b. 11 Dec 1841 in ? SA (daughter of John BAILEY and Mary PRANGLEY), d. 18 Aug 1923 in College Park SA.
Children:
i. unnamed daughter KNOWLES, b. 12 Mar 1866 in Brown Street Adelaide SA, d. 12 Mar 1866 in Brown Street Adelaide SA.
ii. Eva Marshall KNOWLES b. 9 Jun 1869. (married)
iii. Horace Robert KNOWLES b. 13 Apr 1871. (married)
iv. Harry Mortimer KNOWLES, b. 16 Jun 1873 in Kent Town SA, d. 7 Nov 1907 in Scarborough St Kilda VIC. (unmarried)
v. Elsie Clevedon KNOWLES b. 24 Mar 1876. (married)
vi. Jessie Maria KNOWLES b. 13 Mar 1878. (married)
Cheers, John
There were no children registered (births or deaths) to Robert and Maria Knowles until a couple of years after their marriage.
Robert KNOWLES, b. DEC QR. 1838 in Axbridge Somerset ENG, d. 30 May 1917 in "Cheddar" Marlborough Street St Peters SA.
He married Maria BAILEY, 6 Aug 1863 in Christ Church North Adelaide SA, b. 11 Dec 1841 in ? SA (daughter of John BAILEY and Mary PRANGLEY), d. 18 Aug 1923 in College Park SA.
Children:
i. unnamed daughter KNOWLES, b. 12 Mar 1866 in Brown Street Adelaide SA, d. 12 Mar 1866 in Brown Street Adelaide SA.
ii. Eva Marshall KNOWLES b. 9 Jun 1869. (married)
iii. Horace Robert KNOWLES b. 13 Apr 1871. (married)
iv. Harry Mortimer KNOWLES, b. 16 Jun 1873 in Kent Town SA, d. 7 Nov 1907 in Scarborough St Kilda VIC. (unmarried)
v. Elsie Clevedon KNOWLES b. 24 Mar 1876. (married)
vi. Jessie Maria KNOWLES b. 13 Mar 1878. (married)
Cheers, John
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Australia / Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 04:11 BST (UK) »
Hi
You can see my trees on Ancestry.com if interested.
Apart from the birth of Frances Mary MENSFORTH 22 Apr 1858, as yet to find a death or marriage. According to the South Australian Register, Tuesday 6 December 1859, she was still alive.
No trace of the second child, but could have lost it (plenty of stressful reasons!), it may have died at or after birth, and so on. In any case, I have checked Mensforth, Bailey, etc births on SA Births, Deaths, etc CDs and nothing obvious.
I have looked on and off for more than 10 years, so unlikely that details will ever turn up.
Cheers, John
You can see my trees on Ancestry.com if interested.
Apart from the birth of Frances Mary MENSFORTH 22 Apr 1858, as yet to find a death or marriage. According to the South Australian Register, Tuesday 6 December 1859, she was still alive.
No trace of the second child, but could have lost it (plenty of stressful reasons!), it may have died at or after birth, and so on. In any case, I have checked Mensforth, Bailey, etc births on SA Births, Deaths, etc CDs and nothing obvious.
I have looked on and off for more than 10 years, so unlikely that details will ever turn up.
Cheers, John
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Australia / Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Friday 05 August 11 23:44 BST (UK) »
Hi
Interesting to look at the thread, but I have additional questions....
My first cousin (thrice removed) Maria BAILEY married Thomas Ralph MENSFORTH 7 Apr 1857 St Johns Church Adelaide SA. They had a daughter Frances Mary MENSFORTH 22 Apr 1858 George Street Adelaide SA.
Does anyone know what happened to her?
Thomas died in the wreck of the Admella 6 Aug 1859 (see the various reports of the day).
South Australian Register, Tuesday 6 December 1859 includes the following: Mr. McEllister also mentioned the case of Mrs. Mensforth, widow of Thomas Mensforth, who was a young wife with one child, and was again looking forward to her confinement, as deserving more consideration than it had received.
From this report, I assume but cannot find any record of a second child. Anyone know more?
Maria MENSFORTH (nee BAILEY) later married Robert KNOWLES 6 Aug 1863 Christ Church North Adelaide SA, and had a family of 6, although their first daughter died in childbirth.
Cheers, John
Interesting to look at the thread, but I have additional questions....
My first cousin (thrice removed) Maria BAILEY married Thomas Ralph MENSFORTH 7 Apr 1857 St Johns Church Adelaide SA. They had a daughter Frances Mary MENSFORTH 22 Apr 1858 George Street Adelaide SA.
Does anyone know what happened to her?
Thomas died in the wreck of the Admella 6 Aug 1859 (see the various reports of the day).
South Australian Register, Tuesday 6 December 1859 includes the following: Mr. McEllister also mentioned the case of Mrs. Mensforth, widow of Thomas Mensforth, who was a young wife with one child, and was again looking forward to her confinement, as deserving more consideration than it had received.
From this report, I assume but cannot find any record of a second child. Anyone know more?
Maria MENSFORTH (nee BAILEY) later married Robert KNOWLES 6 Aug 1863 Christ Church North Adelaide SA, and had a family of 6, although their first daughter died in childbirth.
Cheers, John
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