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US Lookup Requests / Re: William Huntington and Edith Clara Wells
« on: Friday 13 September 13 18:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue
Just a quick message to let you know that a wonderful article on Billy Wells is featured in the September 2013 iissue of "Cycle World" (an American magazine available in the best newsagents)
It is very interesting and informative.
Bad Bill

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US Lookup Requests / Re: William Huntington and Edith Clara Wells
« on: Sunday 01 January 12 07:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for this speedway ace.

The early history of motorcycling has often been neglected with the result that many accepted 'facts' are now having to be corrected. This has come about thanks mainly to the internet communication of dedicated people interested in the history of the engineering and sport of motorcycles.

In the recently published biography FRANKLIN'S INDIANS, much of Billy Wells career is featured along with many previously unpublished photographs of him.
Happy New Year
Bad Bill

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Bradley of Erganagh?
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 20:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Again KathBMC
I really think you should stay with this now and try and bring to a conclusion! Mary would be prepared to go the DNA route, I've already asked her! But I think you should try and recruit a local genealogist to research the microfilm records first.
 As I mentioned in my last message, I used the services of a chap called * from Co. Wicklow to find out some info on the family of Charles Bayly Franklin. (If any of your family are into motorcycles, they'll probably have heard of the 'Indian' motorcycle' This C.B. Franklin was an Irishman who designed the 'Chief' and 'Scout' models). The cost of this research was £200 ($300) and it was worth every penny!
I've already been in touch with the oldest member of the T* family still alive regarding this Bradley research. This is * T*. Unfortunately he was unable to say for if any of the Bradleys in the Erganagh in 1858 were related.
Willie Kennedy died a few years ago. Most if not all of that older generation who might have been able to help us have passed on.
Regards
Bill

* details of living people now removed in this and previous posts in accordance with Rootschat policy

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Bradley of Erganagh?
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 18:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi KathBMC
The location of the farm once occupied by William Bradley and until recently known as 'Kittys', is now owned by the T* family. This farm only came into their possession fairly recently. The previous owners were the Kennedy family. I recently asked an elderly neighbor if he could shed any light on who had lived in the old house and he told me he'd never heard Willie Kennedy (the previous owner) call the place anything other than 'Kittys'.
I don't think their is any doubt this is indeed the location from where your ancestor left to go to America.
With any luck the R.C. records on microfilm will show the relationship of the three men living in the townland of the Erganagh in 1858. The most important of these is if Mary's great great grandfather was John Bradley AND if he was a close relation to your William Bradley.
I was involved in writing a biography on Charles B. Franklin called 'Franklins Indians'. This book has only recently been published after many years of research. One of the most difficult pieces of information to uncover only came to light when I hired a professional researcher.  Perhaps if you don't want to go down the DNA route, this may be the best option.
As I sit writing this message, Marys husband has just driven into my next door neighbors yard!
Bill

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Bradley of Erganagh?
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 07:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shane,
Thanks for this information regarding the Four Courts records.
I presume you will be able to tell me where I can find the state records of the R.C. population  from this period?
Bill

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Bradley of Erganagh?
« on: Monday 03 October 11 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi KathBMC
I've spent a bit of time trying to figure out if you are indeed related to Mary. Her great great grandfather is very very likely to have been the John Bradley, a tenant farmer on this 30 acre farm in 1858. The Cassidys now own this land. In addition to John Bradley, only two other families with the name Bradley lived in the townland of the Erganagh at this time. One was Dominick Bradley, the other was a William Bradley who must have been your ancestor. It may be that  these Bradleys were related to one another, perhaps brothers. Unfortunately, despite my research I couldn't prove this.
I now know for sure where William Bradley lived in 1858. This dwelling was only wallsteads until recently when the farmer removed the remaining structure and returned this to farmland. This particular old dwelling was known as 'Kittys'. In an earlier message I suggested that this lady may have been Kitty Convery. This is incorrect. The lady who once lived here was called Kitty Crilly.
Should you or your family decide to come for a visit, I would be more than happy to show you the site where William Bradley had his farm in 1858.
A few years ago, my brother was contacted by a gentleman in Canada of the same name who wanted to find out if they were related. They both decided to undergo the new DNA test. This cost a few hundred pounds but did indeed prove beyond doubt they were related. I suspect that for you to prove a relationship beyond doubt with Mary Cassidy, this DNA test may be the only foolproof way because the local Roman Catholic Church was burned in the early 1800's destroying most, if not all, birth marriage and death records. The burning of the Four Courts in Dublin during the Civil War destroyed these records also. This is why genealogy in the Kilrea area (in the R.C. population) is so difficult.
Bill

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Bradley of Erganagh?
« on: Thursday 18 August 11 21:06 BST (UK)  »
According to the Griffiths valuation of 1858, There are three 'Bradley' families living in the Erganagh just outside Kilrea. John Bradley lived on the largest farm. This settlement still exists although the original building was replaced quite recently. The other two farms occupied by William Bradley and Dominick Bradley have disappeared long ago but I think I know where they once stood (approx). I've also been told that up until fairly recently the old wallsteads  there were known as 'Kittys'. (Please don't accept this piece as fact! I'll make more inquiries on this). In c. 1835 a William Bradley married Kitty Convery at Ballinascreen (Draperstown). If you are trying to trace your Bradley ancestors still living in the Erganagh I have to tell you that only a possible descendant of John Bradley now lives in the area. Of course it is entirely possible you may be related to her, the only foolproof way of telling would be through DNA investigation.
Bill

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US Lookup Requests / Re: William Huntington and Edith Clara Wells
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 15:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,
I will be glad to help.

Billy and Clara were photographed on the deck of the Lusitania on their way to the U.S. in 1915. This boat was sunk on the return journey to Liverpool.
In all, Wells made as many as 30 voyages between the U.S. and U.K between 1906 and 1924.
Billy and Clara's first born was called George Hendee Wells as a tribute to his employer George Hendee, boss of the Hendee Manufacturing Company. (This business was later renamed 'The Indian Motocycle Company' ).
G.H. Wells died last year. There is a DVD/Video featuring this wonderful old gentleman. He appears for a few minutes in 'Old Indians Never Die'. This is still available at Duke Video.
I also have live pictures of Billy Wells ( a few seconds) in an early film of a motorcycle organisers meeting. This is copyrighted so may be costly to reproduce.

The reason for Billy Wells coming to Britain in the first place is that he was a motorcar salesman. This didn't work out so he returned to the U.S.  He was at a loose end when he bumped into George Hendee his old pushbike racing rival who, when discovering Wells was out of work, offered him a job selling Indian motorcycles into the British Isles. Wells accepted the job and returned to London where he set up the 'Indian' franchise on the Euston Road.

As I've already mentioned, there's loads more info on this subject contained in the new Charles Franklin biography, 'Franklin's Indians'.

Sue, should you wish to speak to me directly, I would have no objections.
Regards
Bad Bill

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US Lookup Requests / Re: William Huntington and Edith Clara Wells
« on: Thursday 04 August 11 20:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I'm new to this website and I came across this by accident. William Huntington Wells is quite familiar to me in that he is one of my great heroes. This man is a legend in Indian motorcycle circles in UK and Ireland. He was better known as Billy Wells and he was the leading importer of Indian machines into the UK via his London base. He came second in the 1907 TT races on the Isle of Man on a Vindec machine. He hurt himself badly whilst starting the 1909 TT races and conldn't complete. This is the man who introduced the great Irish racer and engineer Charles B. Franklin to the Indian board of directors who subsequently, in 1916, offered Franklin a job at their factory in Springfield, Mass. USA. Charles Bayly Franklin went on to design two of the most iconic machines in motorcycle history, the Indian 'Scout' and Indian 'Chief' models.
Wells also was a star in his own right in that he is the man responsable for the development of the motorcycle sport of 'Speedway' in Britain.
Is Wells' wife Clara related to you? Please let me know as I know a chap from Sussex who has a wealth of information on Billy Wells. Much more information can be found in a very recently published biography on Charles Franklin called 'Franklin's Indians' (Panther Publications).
Billy Wells' son, called George Hendee Wells, died in 2009. I MIGHT be able to put you in touch with his son (Billy Wells grandson) in Australia.
Regards
Bad Bill

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