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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Saturday 10 September 11 20:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,
Glad I have been able to help you fill in the missing pieces, let me know if you need anything and I will gladly do my best.
I have spoken to my Cousin Colin and he is going to chat to his Dad who was married to Dorothy Moneypenny and see if he can come up with anything interesting for you. I do know one bit of news but this open forum is not the place. (not sure how to PM you)
As I said I stumbled upon your search simply by looking for a photograph of Williams shop for my mum and have now got the bug for tracing my roots. Do you use a specific piece of software to log it all ? and apart from this site where else do you find your information ? I would be gratetful for any advice. Colin was really excited to chat when I rang him the other night, he is going to dig out what paperwork his Dad has on the Moneypenny's. We also know that it will be interesting, and no doubt difficult, to trace Williams wife Anne McFalane's 
family. We know graet Nanna Mac ran the Walnut pub on Walnut St and that her Husband John was an international flat jockey who rode for the Kaiser and also the Tsar of Russia.
Will speak to you soon
Rob X

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Wednesday 07 September 11 09:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

Wow it is complicated isn’t it? You have given me a headache – think that means you are really my secret sister!!!!!
I don’t have any dates, except William who was born 1900, but from me to great Grandparents:
Me!
Lillian nee Moneypenny m Albert “Bob” Volp
William m Anne McFarlane
Thomas m Elizabeth 

Thomas & Elizabeth had three sons Albert, William & Matthew (who died a young man) & one daughter Lillian. This could be your entry: 
“Thomas married Elizabeth Ann and had 3 children Thomas 1896, Lily (Lillian?) b 1897 and William b 1900.”
 That is assuming it was “Thomas Albert” and you have not found any records of Matthew who died a young man. I am pretty certain Albert married a Lilly Adams

Will speak to Mum, Uncle Terry and also my cousin Colin over the next few days and see if I can find any dates.

Rob X

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Tuesday 06 September 11 09:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,
I have been thinking, which is always a dangerous time!, I know I don’t have all the information and dates etc that you have but could it all be very simple?
Your comment about visiting Netherfield Rd in the sixties as a little girl means we are of a similar age (21 + VAT  :) ) so, if your Dad called Albert Moneypenny (the one who ran a shop in Netherfield rd) “Uncle Albert” and your Grandad was called Matthew then doesn’t that make your Dad my Mum first cousins ?
Thomas Moneypenny had four children, Matthew, Albert, William & Lillian, so if Matthew was your Dads Dad (your Grandad) then he would have had an Uncle Albert, an Uncle William and an Auntie Lillian.
Too simple and way off the mark ?
Rob
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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Monday 05 September 11 08:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

Yes Mum & Dad met at a dance in Speke, not sure of the venue. We lived in the prefabs at Belle Vale until they got demolished in the mid to late sixties and they moved us to Halewood. Dad worked at Plessy's and Mum worked at Trammers, we eventually moved to Great Sankey and are still there, apart from my brother Michael who emigarted to Australia :-(

William & Alberts Dad was the Thomas in the photograph I posted, he wifes name was Elizabeth I think. Am pretty certain that they also had a daughter Lillian and another son Matthew. Repetition of popular christian names do cause confusion eh?

Better get on with some work now, speak later
Rob X

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 20:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

Yep it is good fun.
Mum is trying her hardest to remember things and I am sure they will come back to her. My Dad told us the story of being a little boy in Rose Vale Everton and going to get sweets from a shop in Netherfield Rd. Many years later when he was home on leave from the Air Force he saw a girl he fancied at a dance in Speke, he told his mate he was going to marry her even though he had not even met her ! it turned out her Dad was.....................................................William Moneypenny the man from the sweet shop!! He told us this many times inhis last few days before he passed away in September 09, he hung on for 4 days to reach the 24th which was their wedding anniversary.

I have just dug out some notes my Auntie Dolly wrote about the family a few years before she passed away. I will get Uncle Terry to confirm but reading it I think Thomas Moneypennys wife was called Elizabeth and they also ran agrocers shop in Arkwright St before the war.
The notes seem to indicate that William & Albert had a sister named Lillian and another brother named Matthew who died at an early age. Lillian married a Vincent Cunnigham.Could these be the Lillian and Matthew in your photos ?

Rob X

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

Thomas with Dorothy Moneypenny

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,
Left to right
Lillian, Albert, Lillians Sister, Willima & Anne

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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

William in his best bib and tucker


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Lancashire / Re: Moneypenny's Grocer Shops - Everton
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynne,

I often get brain fade, tooooo many user nams and passwords to remember eh?
Great photos of the shops, Mum is sure the one next to the pub is Alberts and the other is Willimas,
William was born on the 30th January 1900 and passed away on the 9th November 1972, Mum is not sure of Alberts dates but he was older than William.
My Uncle Terry at Wray (Dorothy Moneypennys husband) will probably be able to tell me more about the boys parents as they often went to Wray, am not sure but they may have owned a cottage in the village.
Have scanned 3 photos for you but they failed to upload when I tried to send first time. will try seperate posts.
1 has William on his own, 2 has Albert, Willaim, Lillian, Anne and I think the lass in the middle was Lillians sister. 3 has Thomas with Dorothy Moneypenny.

Still having upload issues :-( will try again
Rob

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