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hi again  my father in law was charles henry bongartz  his father was karl bongartz and his mother was violet jay the other women ,my father in laws sister is christine o'shaunessy is it the christina you know my email is (*) ,my father in law and his wife betty came to melbourne with their children geoffrey and ingrid ,charlie had another sister called olga .i will get more details from my husband tonight

                                               suzzanne

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the other women that your grandfather was living with and later married was my husbands grandmother  they had 3 living children charles ,olga and christine . charlie and his wife left england in the 60's with there 2 children  and settled in australia, my email address if you want to contact me is
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                                                             suzzanne bongartz

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