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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Monday 03 February 25 04:19 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks, Sue.  I can now add Mary's and Madie's exact birth date to their records.  It is strange that Mary T doesn't appear in any records after her birth, but Madie is easy to trace via census and, later a marriage to Colin C Turner.  I have Madie Jane Clayton Turner's death in Weston-Super-Mare.

With the search for Marion Martha/Edith Marion Clayton Gibson, now that I have her younger sister, Elizabeth Ann Clayton Ketterson's obituary, I know that Marion died before her as only two of Elizabeth Ann's siblings are mentioned as family (Henry living in Durban, and Isabella living in London).

Thank you again everyone who has so kindly helped with my Clayton research.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Monday 03 February 25 00:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for these links.  One for the 1905 New Jersey census is a bit strange.  In Elizabeth Ketterson's record it states that she was born in 1876 when she was born in 1873, it also states that she was born in Ireland and that her parents were born in Ireland (father) and Scotland (mother).  Her husbands record states England, England, England.  I suspect that the enumerator had it the wrong way around as Elizabeth's record should have shown England for all three births (hers, father's mother's) and Ireland/Ireland/Scotland for her husband John's (his, his father, his mother).  Little wonder we amateur researchers get confused!

I have now been able to add so much more to Elizabeth Ann Clayton's story - many thanks!  :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Monday 03 February 25 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for this information.  Toyse is not a name in our family, I wonder if it is a mistranscribe?  I think that I saw somewhere quite a while ago that the T stood for 'Teresa'.  Is the record that you sent to me a death?  She and her twin, Madie Jane are on the BDM birth record (same record, same date), born August 1911, but after this date, only Madie Jane is on future records. 

I suppose the actual birth certificate would give Mary T's full first names?  I can't find a baptism for the twins either even though all of the Clayton children of every generation have always been baptised.  Another mystery.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Sunday 02 February 25 22:59 GMT (UK)  »
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Thank you so much for the link to Elizabeth Ann Clayton's marriage certificate.  After searching for so long, I am very happy to see that she had married again.

Finding information on some of the Clayton women has been challenging whereas the men have been easy to trace. 

Another Clayton that cannot be found is Mary T Clayton, twin of Madie Jane Clayton, twins born to Henry Eugene Clayton and Mary Ann Hughes in Brentford in 1911.  Madie Jane can be found in census records after her birth living with her mother (father Henry left them and sailed off to South Africa where he remained until his death) but Mary T is nowhere to be found.  I have searched death records, marriage and census records but nothing has been found.  She also seems to disappear.

So I now have to try to find Mary T Clayton (1911 - ?)and Marion Martha Clayton Gibson (1862 - ?).

Then I will have found all of the 'missing' Clayton girls.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Thursday 30 January 25 07:47 GMT (UK)  »
On one family tree, there is a story that references Mary Elizabeth Fielding Hindle Gibson, Frank Gibson's first wife.  Her granddaughter, Renee Lillian, went to live with her and Renee's father, Thomas Fielding Gibson after he divorced his first wife.  Renee lived with her grandmother from 1933-1935.  On Thomas Fielding Gibson's second marriage record it states that his father is Francis C Gibson and his mother is Mary Elizabeth Fielding.  It seems as if she reverted to her birth surname of Fielding after Francis left her.  Mary Elizabeth's baptism shows the surname Hindle but no father and no father present in her life after her birth.  Her marriage states that her father is John Hindle but there is no record of his ever being in her life after her birth.

A US Social Security claim by Robert Fielding Gibson dated 1968 includes name of father, Francis C Gibson and mother Mary Elizabeth Fielding.  Her death may be recorded under the name of Fielding, some time after 1935?

I was wondering if something tragic had befallen Marion Clayton Gibson, wife of Claude Gibson, after their marriage.  She is not on the 1891 census, she doesn't appear to have lived with him. She was a domestic servant and working class, and he was gentry, so I suspect that he married her (3 years after the birth of their son) to give his son a name but they had a marriage in name only.  Sometimes, family name their children after a brother or sister who they were fond of but who came to a sad end.  Three of Marion's family named their daughters Marion.  Her brother, Henry named his daughter, Linda Marion;  her sister, Elizabeth Ann, named one of her daughters by George Parker, Ada Marion Parker;  her sister, Matilda, named one of her daughters Marion Rosina.

Thank you, everyone, for all of your ideas and tips.   :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Thursday 30 January 25 02:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again, Sue.  I have found the Victorian Inward Passenger List and Claude Gibson is on it, born 1858 (which he was, if the same Claude Gibson) but struck through.  This may mean that he did not disembark in Capetown (where his family had lived previously) but went on to Australia where he had a brother in Melbourne. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Thursday 30 January 25 02:30 GMT (UK)  »
Having found Elizabeth Ann Clayton again (one of the Clayton sisters mysteries), I now have to look for Marian Martha/Edith Marion Clayton after her marriage to Claude Gibson in 1881. I have been trying to find her for many years, without success.
 
On another note, I am also looking for actual marriage certificate for their son, Francis Charles Gibson who lived in Accrington and married in Lancashire in 1899, to a Mary Elizabeth (also Elizabeth Mary) Fielding or Hindle (I suspect mother not married but John Hindle, Engineer is on the marriage certificate as her father).  I have seen this marriage certificate many years ago on the internet but I can't find it now, anywhere.  On it Francis (Frank) states that his father is Claudius Gibson, formerly in the military in South Africa, deceased.  Claude was not deceased but fighting in the Boer War at the time of his son's marriage.  Claude was taken prisoner in 1900 and sent to a camp in Ceylon.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Thursday 30 January 25 02:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, Sue, for this information.  I always wondered about crossed through entries and having read the information that you sent me via the link, I now know possible reasons.  I will do some more checking on Claude Gibson's whereabouts after his marriage and see if I can confirm that he went to Melbourne or not.  Perhaps Australian entry records might have some clues?  I appreciate your help, thank you so much.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Two Clayton sisters mystery
« on: Wednesday 29 January 25 00:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hello amondg,

Thank you for finding this record.  She is indeed Thomas and Ellen Clayton's daughter.  She was baptised in 1873 with her two older brothers, and younger sister, Elizabeth Ann.  I don't know why  her mother's name was not included on her birth record. 

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