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I tried a few different ways on stevemorse.org also and didn't find him.
You said you found the list of ships that arrived from Hamburg in Oct 1907. Did you look at the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria on that list. That might be close enough for someone who wasn't Austrian.

The only other suggestion I have is to narrow down the time frame - when was he last seen in Galicia, when was he first seen in the U.S. - earlier than 1910? If he had children born in the US, when were they born?

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US Lookup Requests / Re: John J Foley married between 1915 & 1920 New York
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 14:10 BST (UK)  »

Thanks very much for the information. I did look here for any help but I found nothing https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex?and%5B%5D=year%3A%221916%22

Kevin

Those are the New York City records. They are kept separate from the NY State records

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United States of America / Re: Immigration to San Francisco and schooling
« on: Friday 09 May 25 11:32 BST (UK)  »
newspapers.com for Annie Beck, 1880 to 1903, San Francisco.
reference to Annie (Senior)'s death in 1897, but you have that.

also, for schools:

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/27532488/

San Francisco Chronicle
    Issue Date: Friday, June 17, 1887
    Page: 7

a listing for
Annie Beck, seventh grade
possibly at the Whittier Primary School
Miss N. A. Maloney, Teacher

Note find someone with a subscription. I am only trying to make sense out of an OCR scan and might be wrong.
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And this doc talks about SF schools during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1886,
listing for
Whittier Primary School - Harrison between 4th and 5th  < - would agree with Clara St location on the map

and says the Girl's HS location was on the north side of Bush Street between Hyde and Larkin

https://library.sfgenealogy.org/directory/san-francisco-county-directory/1887/1887_49.pdf

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Annie Junior wouldn't have entered high school until about age 13 or 14, unless things were different back then. I was 13.
7th grade at age 11 would be about right, but a little young.

edited to add: Or it might have been promotion /to/ 7th grade which would fit a little better. The article was about promotions, I think.

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United States of America / Re: Immigration to San Francisco and schooling
« on: Friday 09 May 25 11:06 BST (UK)  »
Google 1880s maps of San Francisco

Listed as Clary Street on this map - I think the map is wrong because Google Maps today calls it Clara St., but not positive. look for a few more maps and decide.
click on the link to enlarge
http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps1140049-30522.html

Lincoln grammar school not far away. don't know if kids were assigned by location back then as they are today, or if parents could send them wherever they wanted.

Google "were there high schools in 1883 in san francisco"

https://sfgenealogy.org/doku.php?id=san_francisco_county:databases:schools
https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Public_Schools_in_19th_Century_San_Francisco
didn't look for part 1
has a section on Lincoln grammar school

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_schools_in_California

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You can find an ED on the census if you know the address, at https://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html. First pick the year at the top of the page.

In 1900:
*** They are not at 52 Dominick Street in ED 11, their 1898 address
*** They are not at 311 Spring Street in ED 40, their 1902 address

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And I looked for anyone named Sullivan arriving in NYC in July 1873 and did not find them. I wonder if they are on the manifest with only their initials?

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Afternoon,

I followed your links to Jeremiah & Sarah's wedding and then to Maria's marriage. I tried to search Ancestry/Family Search for US or NY Census showing Jeremiah & Sarah. I couldn't find one. I was hoping to see Maria, some siblings (hopefully William) and perhaps an address near the many I've identified for William & Cathering--unless you found it and I missed it in this chain?

BTW, if you look in William Sr's gallery you'll see a map I created of all the addresses I've identified to date.
The only records I have found for anyone named Sullivan married to a Sarah Simpson are the civil records in Ireland and Maria Sullivan's marriage to Robert Roundtree in NYC in 1881.

To make a positive connection to the couple who married in Cork City in 1851, you/we need to find a connection in the US between Maria and William - like a common address, or find the family with all children arriving together, or a baptism record for William S in Cork son of that couple.

edit to add:
I did find the map and locations. very helpful.

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I think the letter S with the certificate means special, which I think is for marriages where the certificates were created months to years after the date of marriage.  I am not positive, but I think they are not available anywhere online.
I think S-415 is the Soundex code for Sullivan. the Italian Genealogy site includes them.

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And for what it's worth, some city directories. I started at 1878 trying to match the 42 Cherry St address you say they were at on the 1880 census, but didn't find it. Also from 1892 and worked backward, but didn't quite meet in the middle. I didn't do whatever is available from 1884 to 1888.

New York city directories

1878 City Directory
William Sullivan, h 110 South Street probably the same man as 1889
no other Sullivans at that address. no Sheas or O'Sheas at that address

1879 City Directory
William Sullivan, h 3 Canal St
no other Sullivans at that address. no Sheas or O'Sheas at that address

1880 City Directory
William Sullivan, clerk 519 W 28th

1882 City Directory
William Sullivan, clerk, 408 E 85th

1883 City Directory
William Sullivan, clerk, 408 E 85th

1889 City Directory
William Sullivan clerk, h 110 South probably the same man as 1878
William Sullivan clerk, h 18 Varick

1891 City Directory
3 Wm Sullivan, clerk
  115 Washington Place <-- likely him
  890 Boulevard
  1384 3rd Ave

1892 City Directory
William Sullivan, clerk 18 Beach <-- him
other William Sullivans at   
  890 Boulevard
  1384 3rd Ave
  122 E 113th
  311 W 13th
?? Jeremiah O'Shea at 26 Beach
?? Margaret O'Shea, widow, 22 Beach

Assuming that is him at 18 Beach in 1892, then that eliminates 2 of the 3 addresses in 1891, because those men are still at the same addresses, leaving 115 Washington Place as the only possible address for your William in 1891. - assuming he was listed in the first place.

Best bets are the later ones at 18 Varick and 115 Washington Place.  And the 18 Beach Street address is where the child Elizabeth Sullivan was born in 1891, daughter of Wm Sullivan and Catherine O'Shea.

I have my doubts about the earlier addresses, but included them anyway.

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For what it's worth, at this stage, or for future reference:
 Griffith's Valuation was  taken in Cork in 1851-3;

No Griffiths Valuation records match your search.
You searched for
First Name: john
Family Name: simpson
County: CORK

No Griffiths Valuation records match your search.
You searched for
First Name: jeremiah
Family Name: sullivan
County: CORK
Parish: KILBROGAN

There are 3 or 4 men named Jeremiah Sullivan in Ballymodan. none rent acreage. all just rent houses, or w/ a small garden. So any of them could be a teacher (who wouldn't be farming.)

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