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Australia / Re: World's Matrimonial Institute Theophilus CAROLUS
« on: Thursday 02 March 23 21:24 GMT (UK)  »

What an informative thread!  :D

My great grandmother was divorced and was remarrying a Roman Catholic so the Matrimonial Institute was a good solution for them. Their 1900 marriage is witnessed by Edith Carolus and Joice Jones. Minister George Hay

Trove is a fantastic resource https://www.change.org/p/fully-fund-trove

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Cornwall / Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Monday 19 November 12 01:01 GMT (UK)  »
There wouldn't have been enough room on the certificate to put all the information about the first marriages so it may have been a factor of expediency rather than ignorance. Both death certificates have different informants and are 2 years apart, but have exactly the same phrasing "particulars of 1st marriage unknown". They are both in the same handwriting having been filled out by the same registrar.
The informants appear to be ignorant of Charles' parents' details; that section is struck through with "unknown" and again "unknown" against Frances' mothers' maiden name.
Genealogy becomes even more interesting when it doesn't unfold smoothly. This family has proved to be so much more difficult than any of my other lines even though they were among the last to arrive in Australia and I could find them in every UK census since 1841!
I have also looked at every variation of Eliza, Elisa, Elizabeth/Jane and can only think that she had left England sometime before 1881. Your suggestion that she might have left England in employment is interesting - that could make her even less visible in the records. I would have thought Australia was the likely candidate but I may have to cast further to the USA, Canada and New Zealand....and remain optimistic  ;)
thanks again,
Jenny

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Cornwall / Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Sunday 18 November 12 02:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your interest and yes you have the correct Fanny and Charles Peat.

I have both Charles and Fanny's death certificates and Charles' first marriage certificate
They were both widowed when they married in 1869 and subsequently had 4 children. Charles and his first wife had 7 children, 6 of whom emigrated to Australia separately between 1869 and 1877 and before Charles and Fanny arrived.
On both death certificates it states "particulars of first marriage unknown" - which I find difficult to believe as one of the sons, (a hairdresser like his father) had been operating a hairdressing business in the same inner city area as his father.
The informant on Fanny's is her eldest daughter Frances Jenkins Peat.
I have no idea why Fanny's father is reported as being Nichols Jenkin on the actual certificate as my research has found her parents to be James Jenkin and Frances Northey.
I would like to know about Eliza though - she would have been 16 when her mother married Charles and 2 years later in the 1871 census was in service nearby her mother. Between 1869 and 1877 most of Charles' children by his first marriage (now adults) emigrated to Australia (assisted). Eliza was about 24 when her mother migrated.
I will continue to look.  :)

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Cornwall / Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Friday 16 November 12 12:10 GMT (UK)  »
I have considered the possibility that she may have emigrated and I do think it quite likely - her mother remarried in 1869 and was living in London until she and her new family emigrated to Australia in 1877. Eliza is in the 1871 census living nearby her mother so I feel either she married or followed her mother to Australia (or died). Or married and then emigrated, making it harder to find on passenger lists.
I have looked at the passenger lists for NSW and Victoria and as her mother settled in NSW I have also searched the NSW birth deaths and marriages.
And of course, have found nothing.

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Cornwall / Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Friday 16 November 12 12:01 GMT (UK)  »
Whoops - not her as the age is wrong - she would have only been 19 not 26 and her father was deceased so he wouldn't have been her witness.  So at least I can eliminate that one.
Thanks for looking.

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Cornwall / Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Friday 16 November 12 11:41 GMT (UK)  »
Oh wow - that was quick and thank you very much.
I think it might be her - so far correct name, age and father.
I guess the difference in the surname explains why I couldn't find them in the censuses - a transcription error - I was looking for Trewrin variations.
Thank you so much, off to search the censuses now.

Jenny

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Cornwall / Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« on: Friday 16 November 12 11:05 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for Eliza Jane WHITFORD born 1853 and baptised in Marazion, mother Frances (Fanny) WHITFORD, nee JENKINS and father James WHITFORD.
I have her in the 1861 census in Marazion with her grandmother and in the 1871 census working as a general servant in Lewisham. I cannot find her in any subsequent census and am working on the premise that she married.
There is a marriage between an Eliza Jane WHITFORD  and James TREWRIN in Redruth in September quarter of 1872 (Vol 5c page 342). I then cannot find any trace of this couple in the 1881 or 1891 censuses.
 I cannot find an online parish record of this marriage and was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. I have searched the RootsChat board, LDS Family Search, Cornwall OPC, and the Phillimore registers on Internet Archive, all with no result.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Jenny

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Flintshire Lookup Requests / Re: MARTIN in OVERTON parish records
« on: Monday 17 September 12 03:29 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for that - I will have a look at the census next time I visit the library as I no longer have an Ancestry account.
Regards,
Jaybak

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Flintshire Lookup Requests / Re: MARTIN in OVERTON parish records
« on: Sunday 16 September 12 12:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much for the prompt feedback. I thought his father was likely to be named William as that was the name of his first born son. The Clwyd Family History site also seems to be a promising resource.
Thanks again,
Jaybak

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