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Tipperary / Re: Maher Family - Tipperary
« on: Sunday 15 January 12 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
Shane, I think you are right, although it is quite odd that we each have a James Maher, son of Thomas Maher and a Mary Butler, daughter of Edmund/Edmond.  To complicate matters more, we each have that family with sons Cornelius and Edmund/Edmond who moved to Scotland ???

The ten children I formerly listed as children of my particular James and Mary are from the church within a mile or so of Goldengrove/Annfield.  Those records have been officially documented and most are according to the records my grandfather/his daughter left.

Mags, do you have the name of the woman that Cornelius married in Scotland?  I want to see if we have the same person which will only lead to more confusion for me!


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Tipperary / Re: Maher Family - Tipperary
« on: Sunday 15 January 12 15:22 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the responses

It appears that we have some conflicting information about the family and where they lived?  The Church records I have indicate that the family lived in Goldengrove (Annfield), Inch Parish.

The census records you and I have Mags appear to be different?  Frankly there are so many different areas that it confuses me!

The 1901 census for James and Mary Maher that I have is in the Poor Union of Thurles, District of Gortkelly, Townland of Goldengrove and Parish Inch.  1901 shows James (age 70) and Mary (age 60) plus son Patrick (my grandfather noted as age 26 but actually 16), a granddaughter Kate, age 3 and Patrick Butler, age 70, an agricultural laborer and lodger.  James Maher was listed as a laborer, his wife a housekeeper and Patrick a rural postman.

The owner of that house was James Butler.

In 1911, Mary Maher was listed as a housekeeper in that same home.  Her son John and his family had returned from Scotland and were in the home.  Son John was listed as a road contractor

In 1911 the house was owned by Edmund Butler.  Edmund Butler (Ned) was James Butler (the owner in 1901's son)

My grandfather Patrick was the last of ten to leave Ireland.  He joined three of his siblings in New Jersey USA and a 5th left Scotland and joined them later.  Three siblings remained in Jersey, one moved to New York and the other moved to Connecticut.

In church records, Thomas Maher, father of James, was listed as a shoemaker.  Edmund Butler, father of Mary, was listed as a laborer.  Both Thomas and Edmund were also from Goldengrove/Annfield.

Goldengrove only consisted of five houses in the 1901 census.  There are now only three houses in rural and beautiful Goldengrove. 

Church records that I have indicate all ten children that I previously listed.

We must be talking about two different areas in Tipperary?


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Tipperary / Re: Maher Family - Tipperary
« on: Saturday 14 January 12 03:00 GMT (UK)  »
I hope that the third post is a charm and the PM works ;D

Mary Butler and James Maher were married in Drom parish (Church of Monroe/Monrae) located fairly close to their home in Annfield.  All of their children were Baptized in that same Parish.

I am seeking any and all information regarding James Maher's mother's maiden name and am also seeking Mary Butler's mother's maiden name.  Ten years of searching is enough. 

I am also seeking any information about James and Mary's siblings names.  In order to request further research in Tipperary, I need more information than I currently have.

I am assuming that one of Mary's brothers may have been Patrick Butler, although in one census he was lsited as a lodger in the Maher home.

Please get in touch with anything you have to share.


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Tipperary / Re: Maher Family - Tipperary
« on: Saturday 14 January 12 02:47 GMT (UK)  »
Entering more information as I have to post three replies before I can use PM function. :D

Have major questions about the Maher census in Goldengrove/Annfield in both 1901 and 1911.

In the 1901 census, my grandfather Patrick is listed as age 26 and a postman.  He was 16.

On that same census, there is a 3 year old named Kate, listed as a granddaughter.  As far as I know none of Mary and James' children had children in Ireland. The five who came to the US (Margaret, Ellen, Thomas, Michael (he first went to Scotland) and Patrick were all single.

On the 1911 census, Mary's son John had returned home with his family.  Listed on that census was an 18 year old grandson named Matthew.  Again, I have no clue who this child could have belonged to, if his age was correct.  As far as I know, he was no relationship to John and wife.

James Maher died between the 1901 and 1911 census.  I believe that Mary Butler Maher lived until at least 1920.  I cannot find any information about their deaths. 


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Tipperary / Re: Maher Family - Tipperary
« on: Saturday 14 January 12 01:27 GMT (UK)  »
In addition to the seven children listed on page 1, James and Mary Butler Maher from Annfield had three additional children:  Margaret, John and Patrick.

Patrick was the youngest and was my grandfather

Five children, including my grandfather, immigrated to the US and the other five moved to Scotland.

As I am new to responding, if I figure out if and how private message can be sent, I will try that.

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