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England / Re: Ben Elton, William John Bennett, gymnasts
« on: Saturday 23 July 11 02:22 BST (UK)  »
I have hundreds of newspaper clippings culled from The Era referencing Wybert Clive - if you give me some dates I can see if they also include your interests. I also have access to the Online Era for 19th century if you want any look ups.  Interestingly Sarah Emma's sister in law (my 2x ggm) also let out apartments in Dewsbury.

To answer the person who said it was a strange career change - I had the same situation James Parkinson (Sarah's brother) appeared to suddenly drop being a Carpet Weaver in Dewsbury and turned up in Greenock Scotland as a Theatre Properties Manager - it seemed incongruous  - until I realized that Sarah Emma had married an actor and then surmised that she and Wybert encouraged him to switch careers. It took me forever to find them in the 1881 census (in the pre online census days!!)
Let me know if I can be of help
regards
Mel Morris

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England / Re: Ben Elton, William John Bennett, gymnasts
« on: Friday 22 July 11 23:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: LoesLamb on Saturday 18 June 11 19:23 BST (UK)
I don't know when he became one. Maybe at the same time as his brother George Frederick, three years younger. He was a warper in a cotton mill in 1891 (Salford or Hulme). When George married in 1897 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire, he was a Gymnast. The couple's address was the same of the witnesses, theatre people: Frederick McLaughlin Clive and his mother Sarah Emma. She was the widow of Samuel Cecil M. L. (Mclaughlin) Clive, aka Wybert Clive. His bloody story: http://www.melmorrisfamilytree.com/2/1410.htm
Possibly the two brothers got to know the Clives when they played in Manchester 1890/91.

Loes

Interesting - I'm the Mel Morris that reported this story - Sarah Emma Parkinson was my  2x Great Aunt - and your are right   Wybert Clive's story is very bloody - but I have had great trouble finding his birth or baptism - I think he must have been a bit economical with the truth on his marriage cert. He claimed to be born in Edinburgh, but no indication that this is true. Anyone who has any info on Wybert that I don't have I'd love to have it.

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