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Norfolk / Nelson family - Swaffham / connection with Horatio?
« on: Sunday 13 January 13 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
My family seems to trace back to a Nelson family at Swaffham in Norfolk & I wondered if there was some connection to Horatio Nelson of Trafalgar fame.  The furthest back I can get is to Richard Nelson (born 1703 Swaffham) who married Helena brown (born 1711).  Their child was William Nelson born 1740 Swaffham, who married Elizabeth Burgill born 1750.

From there the line goes down to William Burgill Nelson born 1772 and his son Robert Nelson born 1810.

I'm guessing that my family links into Nelson's father or grandfathers family somewhere.  Is there a wider family tree for the Nelsons so that i can see where?

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Many thanks for the ideas.  I'll check through that information & if I find anything else, I'll let you know.

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I've ground to a halt researching the Hulbert family in Corsham in Wiltshire, which is quite frustrating as this amazing family stretches back to 1333 & Robert Hurlebatter (see Hurbutt Anice family tree on ancestry).  My lot obviously tie in with the family as they are in and around Corsham.  My family are...in descending order..

Gifford Hulbert  m                 Anna Pinwell
b.1653 Corsham         b. 1655 Corsham d.1715

Gifford Hulbert      m     Joan Chapman
b 1680 Biddestone         b 1683 Corsham

Thomas Hulbert                 m Ann Bunce
b 1711 Biddestone d  1799     b. 1716

I wondered whether John Hulbert & Joane Gifford who married in 1658 could be the missing parents, as Gifford is an unusual name, but can't find any evidence or any way to tie them into the larger family.  The spelling of Hulbert changes a lot as well.  Any help appreciated.

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Wiltshire / Re: Richard Taviner born 1771 Biddestone, Wiltshire
« on: Monday 07 January 13 18:46 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that information.  I think that my parents found this Richard (son of Richard & Rebecka, North Wraxall) & they said that he died as a baby, so couldn't be our Richard.  Do you have a date of death for him ?  They could be wrong about this.

Thanks

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Wiltshire / Richard TAVINER born 1771 Biddestone, Wiltshire
« on: Sunday 06 January 13 18:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I'm still trying to track down Richard Taviner's parents, with little success.  He married Sarah Hulbert (born 1772) on 8th November 1790 at St Nicholas, Biddestone, Wiltshire (according to parish records).  I don't have a marriage certificate to find names of his parents.

Any suggestions?

(He had 5 children - Elizabeth (b 1791) , Amy (b 1804), William (b 1807), Chapman (b 1809)& Richard b 1812, all in Biddestone)

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Hi All

This very complicated family is starting to make a bit more sense to me now.  It explains why Martha referred to her father as a Watson, but other people on ancestry have her as a Margesson (and Ann Elizabeth used it as her childs middle name).  So the family were either used the double barrelled Margesson Watson or sometimes just used one surname!

Martha's son, Charles Thomas Franks (born 1871) was in the Royal Marine Light Infantry, so the military connection is there, from grandson to son to father.

George & Esther seem more likely contenders for being Martha's parents, than Robert & Caroline - I'll have a look at the census.

Also, on the other side, Charles Franks (born 1839 Wolverhampton) had a sister called Elizabeth, so the Jemima Magness might be their grandmother -mother of Charles Franks born 1810 (Preston).  Lots to investigate - thanks!

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I couldn't find Margesson on the Franks side, so will have look at that. I was assuming it might be on the Watson line, possibly George's wife, or perhaps Elizabeth Ann just liked inventing interesting middle names.

I'll investigate the missing soldier as it might explain why a girl from Kent met a basket maker from Wolverhampton.

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Martha was also listed as a widow on her second marriage, which implies she was married before, but I can't find any evidence of her first 'marriage' either.

I don't have a date of death for Charles Franks her first husband and the last information I have is the 1881 census.

Her daughter Elizabeth Ann had a lot of children and one of them has an interesting middle name of Margesson - might be an old surname.

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I'll have a look at that - might be her.  Her 'second' marriage is listed under the London, England, Marriage & Banns 1754-1921.  It gives the date of Martha Franks marriage as December 19th 1886 and her father is listed as George Watson.  I am struggling to read his profession, but I think that it may say tailor.

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