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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Monday 18 July 11 02:09 BST (UK)  »
Rossane has heaps of stuff and is a bit better at recording than me... I should have had a tree type programme on a computer but do not. Just losts of notes. Rosanne is a wealth of info.... I would love to get a disk of her or any others and try and get the lot together as there must be heaps now and Maggie at Clan Donald Centre must have a good part strapped together I would think. Unfortunately we are not that well off and I am no position to travel so just go in spurts now and again as the desire takes me.... The list of Black John's siblings came from a bible too I understand...
Keep posting bits and pieces and thoughts... Regards Clint

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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Monday 18 July 11 01:39 BST (UK)  »
Great fun isn't it... I get lost unless I draw little pictures for myself but getting old I am still a bit lost... So correct me if I am wrong with my thinking .... what you have is....

Christy McInnes (circa) 1780 - (Any idea of maiden name and husband..??? was it Angus???)
had son Donald who married another Christy who was a sister of Rachel. In 1851 he was head of house caring for niece Margaret 18 living with him? with wife Christy dead (he had remarried???)
Donald's son Neil was living close with an uncle Malcolm

Maol Caluim - Malcolm McInnes (who married Anabella McPherson) was or was not a brother of Donald McInnes ???? If he was it would make Christy (circa 1780) his mother ???? and was Angus the father ????

Was this one of the Angus's in Black John's family of:

Calum Mor - Malcolm the Elder c1765 (m) Flora McKinnon c 1772
Neil c 1766
Aonghus Mor (Angus the elder)
Myles c1769 (m) Marion McKenzie c1768
Calum Og - Malcolm the Younger - 2 sons evidently migrated Australia
John (Jonathon) (m) Isabella Anderson
Aongus Og (Angus the younger)

Hope I am not confusing just trying to understand.. Thanks Clint

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Sussex / Re: William Bodle - b 1810 in West Firle or Alfriston?
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 10:51 BST (UK)  »
I had the front bit of last post a bit wrong... I went back and checked as i had received the following which may help you..



Hi there
It is amazing that we have been able to unearth what we have about the ancestors.
I have boxes of information and details mainly in my head which I need to put in writing whilst I can remember.
My husband's side is Voller (sent out from Sussex).  Was only here a few months and was involved in the
Wairau Massacre where only a few survived. Elizabeth Voller married a Henry Miller (the German ancestor in
Nelson in 1872.  I have no information on Henry Miller (I don't believe this is his real name).  I have become
quite suspicious of those I can't trace from so little info.  The same goes for Dr Geo Bodle's mother Ann
Butler born 1826, Tipperary Ireland.  Ann and father George married in Sydney Aust in 1843.
  He came from Alfriston in England but
Dr Geo went to India from Sydney and Ann returned to Ireland where they met up again in abt 1850.
Dr George's father was in the 80th Staffordshire Vols reg which accompanied the convicts to Sydney in
abt 1838/9.  My theory is that Ann and her mother were on board.   The older Geo. was in NZ abt
1840 as a soldier, went back to Sydney married  Ann.  Their marriage cert. states "with permission of
said mother" and Ann signs with a cross.   Dr Geo. was the only child of several that was born in Australia.
Ann Bodle died in 1866 of a strangulated hernia.  The father left Ireland never to return. 
It has taken several years to find what became of him and recently found that he was murdered and his
body was found floating in the docks area in London 1873 not long after Dr Geo and Eliza Janetta arrived here.
The story goes that there falling out as he was buried in a common grave and no one seemed to care about
him.  Very sad.
Off to have my coffee fix.
cheers
Sharon
(Did you feel the latest shake?)
 

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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 07:42 BST (UK)  »
MacINNES             DUNCAN          26   BREAKISH,       
                         MARY               28   Mary died 1863, Duncan married Mary Kelly
                                CATHERINE      3   Died on Argyle
                                DONALD           1    Died 3-9-1853

(Duncan's only brothers were Myles, Malcolm, and John) (parents were Donald McInnes (m) Catherine McInnes dies of Cholera) (Donald's parents were Margaret Buchanan (m) Malcolm McInnes - Heaste) (Malcolm's father was Donald from Leitir Fura brother of Black John, Angus. Malcolm, Myles and we think Duncan)... refer below for Duncan and Mary to Australia.


Duncan & Mary arrived Vic on "Argyle"
           MILES              18   Arrived Vic on Hercules
           JOHN               15   Arrived Vic on Hercules
Rents a small croft, and has maintained his brothers, Miles and John, for the past 4 years, and who had employment in the south 6 months ago, but left to emigrate.

P/N  £14-15-8, No 383,

Duncan McInnes (m) Mary ??
Mary 22nd Nov 1863 (37) - parents Malcolm & Annabella McPherson (McInnes) – buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Catharine - Died on Argyle (3)
•   Donald - Died 3rd Sept 1853 (1)

Duncan McInnes (m) Mary Kelly
Duncan (d) 22nd Sept 1909 (81)
buried Meredith Cemetery
Mary (d) 8th Dec 1909 (79) – Peter & Catharine Kelly was father / mother.
all buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Mary Ann (d) 8th Nov 1868 (2)
buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Mary (d) 11th July 1891 (30)
buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Christina (d) 9th May 1894 (26)
buried Meredith Cemetery

1910 - Parish of Cargerie, County Grant, Geelong District

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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 07:03 BST (UK)  »
Sorry you have me a little confused... Correct me please.

1) Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan  - had siblings Donald (1801), Neil, Meron - and Alexander (circa 1809) as you mention... (any others that you know of please?)
2) Malcolm McInnes ??? (m) Anabella McPherson - had sibling Rachel (circa 1809) - supposedly from Kylerhea

or was it Neil / Duncan McInnes (m) Christy who were Rachel parents???

Not to confuse things but I have Black John McInnes from Leitir Fura (brother of Donald McInnes who was father of Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan above), supposedly had a daughter Rachel, which would make Malcolm 1) and this Rachel McInnes cousins...Wonder whether that Rachel also had a daughter Rachel who married Alexander... am i tying myself in knots here ??????

A bit confused.... Clint

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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 04:12 BST (UK)  »
Excellent stuff.. Do you have a list of all Alexander's brothers and sisters as my great great grandfather was one of them, namely Donald McInnes (m) Catherine McInnes (from Drumfearn). They were from Heast with Alexander's father's father (Donald) from Leitir Fura.

Malcolm and Margaret Buchanan's children I had pencilled in as defintely

1) Neil m) Christy McKinnon - lived #10 Heast
2) Meron (m) Peter McKinnon (Christy's brother)
3) Donald (b) 1801

Possible as

4) Christina (b) circa 1810

You have me all excited as it adds another couple of pieces to me hand drawn picture... Anything else appreciated. Regards Clint


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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 02:57 BST (UK)  »
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Inverness / Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« on: Saturday 16 July 11 17:49 BST (UK)  »
I thinkI had pondered over this same puzzle several years ago. Rosanne McInnes in Australia may know of Margaret from Alexander / Rachel family and whereabouts - stayed behind. Have you checked with Maggie at Clan Donald Centre Armadale Skye?
I will check my material. The 18 year old Margaret I assume died Queenstown Ireland of typhus .
There was another Margaret McInnes (related) acting as a matron on Hercules who either contracted typhus or went mad with the troubles and jumped overborad in Queenstown harbour and drowned, no doubt weighed down by her skirts. That was the story I was told.  I don't have a family tree programme just a lot of old notes and a failing memory that I was using to  put together a family story and I tend to go a bit round in circles.

Maybe you could help me, (or anyone else out there). Do you have any material on Alexander and Rachel and who their parents were by any chance. For all interested how many of the Strath / Sleat McInnes's has anyone linked and recorded including other connections with / Nicholson / McLure / Buchanan / McKenzie / McPherson / Anderson / McLeod / McAlister / Robertson / McKinnon / McLennan etc?   Regards Clint

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: miles mcinnes on arrivals from australia
« on: Saturday 16 July 11 07:18 BST (UK)  »
I have Myles complete background along with his brothers going back to the 1500 's. Three of the boys . Duncan, Myles and John came out on HMS Hercules to Australia in 1852. Believe Myles was not married or had family (like his younger brother Malcolm who died at Makaraka Gisborne). Duncan the oldest settled who stayed and settled in Australia, and John the youngest and my great grandfather, both had large families. In Johns case 12 children, making up for the other two no doubt... Anyway I would be extremely keen on knowing more about Myles.. I think he may have been part of the Lodge at sometime but cannot guarntee that.

Sculimus for your info is a farm and part of Breakish land just out of Broadford, Strath, Isle of Skye. The four brothers were born there and their parents Donald and Catherine Mcinnes both died of typhus there in circa 1848. The boys then relocated to Lower Breakish with Duncan the oldest looking after John the youngest but working in the South. They were penniless and were assisted to emigrate as part of the Highland Clearances.

If you know of anyone interested on a whole story on this eraly Dunedin settlers background I have it along with other material that puts the whole story into perspective. I have now tracked the whole four down with your help... but would love to piece Myles Dunedin story together but that maybe a hurdle to far......
 
Any further help appreciated and go the blue and gold (but not green)

Clint

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