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Lancashire / Re: Union Infirmary in Burnley
« on: Sunday 31 July 11 15:04 BST (UK)  »
Found the Union Workhouse - turns out it was simply "District 45" in the 1911 census. At that time, Lawrence wasn't there. I'm confused as to where he could be, though, and when he was admitted to the Union Infirmary...


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Lancashire / Re: Union Infirmary in Burnley
« on: Sunday 31 July 11 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rosie - his name is Lawrence Durkin.

Mo -
That's a really good find - I'm a subscriber to Ancestry and they haven't transcribed the actual census pages, only the summary books, so I couldn't find Lawrence as he must not be the head of whatever dwelling he's in. (He isn't with any of his close relatives, either.) Is there any way to find out (for free) which enumeration district etc. he appears in, and then I can look that up on Ancestry?

Luzzu -
As for Union Infirmary, the census summary book seems to go straight from 116 Briercliffe Road to 122, and 118 doesn't appear anywhere nearby. If I knew the head of the Infirmary, I could search by his/her name, but alas I don't...!

Sean.

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Lancashire / Union Infirmary in Burnley
« on: Sunday 31 July 11 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

Was wondering if anyone knew any way to find out about the Union Infirmary in Burnley. It is listed as the place of my gg-grandfather's death in 1913 but as I can't find him on the 1911 census I thought he might have been in there for a while. I don't even know what sort of institution it was - one source suggests it was a sort of add-on to the workhouse.

I have been in touch with the Lancashire Record Office regarding records of admission, patients' progress/decline and such, but so far they haven't been forthcoming with information. (I think they are renovating at the moment.) I've had no luck finding a census of those residing in the Union Infirmary, either.

If anyone could offer any advice or point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated!

Regards,

Sean.

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Lancashire / Re: Lawrence and Elizabeth DURKIN
« on: Saturday 30 July 11 15:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mo and Radcliff,

Been on the trail of Lawrence's father Patrick recently (found his death certificate, attached) after you helped me to find him and wondered if you'd lend me your opinion on a possible lead.

In the 1861 census there's a family living at 14 Garnet Street, Stockport, Cheshire with a Martin Durkin (b. 1825) listed as the head. Also living there are Lawrence Durkin (b. 1800, Mayo, Ireland) and Bridget Durkin (b. 1801, Mayo, Ireland), listed respectively as Father and Mother.

I think it's possible that Lawrence and Bridget might also be the parents of Patrick (b. 1818), who is in turn father of the Lawrence (b. 1862, Ireland or Blackburn) we were talking about earlier.

ie,

Lawrence Sr. -> Patrick -> Lawrence Jr. who married Elizabeth
                      -> Martin who is in this 1861 census

It would explain the recurrence of names in the family; I know "Patrick" is annoyingly frequent, but "Lawrence" seems to be relatively rare.

What do you think? I'm unsure of a good way to verify this, and would be very grateful if you could once again assist me with your insights!

Sean.

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Other Countries / Re: Mysterious g.g. Grandmother
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 12:33 BST (UK)  »
Tony,

Thanks  -  that's useful information. I didn't realise it was quite common. Shall have to look into finding out exactly what army he was in!


Karen and Crisane,

I've been trying for a long time to get a birth certificate for one of their children, but it seems impossible to unambiguously identify their births on lancashirebmd. Even with cross-correlations there are a number of possible sets of parents. Any help with this would also be much appreciated!!


Sean.

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Other Countries / Re: Mysterious g.g. Grandmother
« on: Friday 15 July 11 01:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Karen,

Yes, it crossed my mind that that might be a likely explanation - even so, that would be a fascinating development in itself. If I could prove that much it would give me a handle to find out more about her parentage... I've tried searching on various websites pertaining to the Indian Army/East India Company, but as you can imagine, the results aren't all that enlightening considering that I have only her first name and year of birth...

What do you think would be the most promising course of action (if any)?

Thanks for your reply :)

Sean.

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Other Countries / Mysterious g.g. Grandmother
« on: Friday 15 July 11 00:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone :)

Was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to lend me any advice or help to find out more about the most interesting person I've uncovered in my family's history (so far!).

My great-great grandmother was called Elizabeth Durkin (married surname), she was born in about 1863, and her place of birth is listed as the West Indies on the 1901 census, and India on the 1911 census! The possibility of having Caribbean or Indian blood is brilliant - exactly the sort of "jackpot" unexpected thing you hope to come across when looking into your family's history - but other than these census entries I've been unable to find out anything about her.

Her husband was Lawrence Durkin (born in Ireland, ~1863), and a relative said that he might have been in either the Indian Army or affiliated with the East India Company. It might be coincidence, but the common (West) Indian thread invites me to speculate that he met her far afield, married her and brought her back to Lancashire, England... A rough timeline of what I've pieced together from censuses is below.

1881 - Lawrence Durkin is aged 19, living with his mother Bridget in Blackburn, Lancashire.

Some time between 1881 and 1891 - Lawrence meets & marries Elizabeth. I don't know for sure, but I doubt that there would be many (West) Indian girls in Blackburn at the time...

1891 - Lawrence Durkin is aged 29, living with Elizabeth aged 28 with their four childen in Burnley, Lancashire.

1901 - Lawrence and Elizabeth are both aged 39, living in Padiham Lancashire with their surviving three children.

1911 - Lawrence disappeared from censuses (he died in 1913, so might have been in hospital). Elizabeth (listed as "Lizzie", aged 50) living with the family of Lawrence's oldest child.


If anyone could suggest a way forward to find out more about Elizabeth I would be truly grateful. If I could even find out her maiden name it would be a massive help...

Best regards,

Sean. :)


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Ireland / DURKIN family
« on: Monday 11 July 11 11:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I'm relatively new to genealogy but immensely enjoying finding out my family history. I would really appreciate any help and advice anyone would be kind enough to give me about getting past a problem.  As far as I can tell, my ggg grandparents Patrick and Bridget DURKIN (variants "Durken", "Dirkin" etc) were the trailblazers who moved (along with their young family) from Ireland (most likely Sligo or Mayo, judging by the surname) to Blackburn, Lancashire some time between about 1862 and 1871. The earliest details I have (from the 1871 census where they live in Blackburn) are:

Name                              Approx year of birth          Place of birth

Patrick Durken (head)      1811                                 Ireland
Bridget Durken (wife)       1816                                 Ireland
Martin Durken (son)         1851                                 Ireland
John Durken (son)            1854                                 Ireland
Patrick Durken (son)         1856                                 Ireland
Lawrence Durken (son)    1862                                 Ireland           <- my gg grandfather, married Elizabeth from India/West Indies, would love to know more!
James Durken (son)          1844                                 Ireland
Ellen Durken (boarder)     1844                                 Ireland           <- James' wife
Mary Durken (boarder)      1870                                Blackburn       <- James' daughter


If anyone has any suggestions about how I could find out whereabouts in Ireland they were all from I would be very very grateful!

Regards,

Sean.

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Lancashire / Re: Lawrence and Elizabeth DURKIN
« on: Sunday 10 July 11 12:22 BST (UK)  »
Radcliff,

No, sadly it doesn't say how long they were married. "Lizzie" is listed as married, but the column about how long the marriage has lasted has been left blank. ::)

Hmm, you might be onto something with the probate - it seems a little odd that her other child Henry didn't get anything (he was alive until 1946), but maybe they had a falling out. I could probably go the the library and have a look at the marriage certificate of Bridget and John Vickery to see if her father was Lawrence. If so, it would be a great find to know that Elizabeth went as Mary. Shall get back to you on that!


Mo,

Intriguing theory - there's also a Henry McArdle registered in Blackburn in 1883 which lends more weight to the idea. I can't imagine why they wouldn't be registered as Durkin, unless as you say Lawrence and Elizabeth weren't officially married... Or, it's possible that they were married in (West) India and for whatever reason they just didn't register as Durkin. I wouldn't know how to go about tracing marriages in such places, though!

In any case, I will do as you suggest and get a copy of the certificate!

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