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Australia / Re: MCDOWALL - Hector Ross. VIC MArriage and Death lookup please
« on: Wednesday 18 September 13 11:04 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for that.

I had already concluded the parents given in the death registration were most likely in error for some reason, and that previous thread confirms this, but also mentions the death notice which makes clear that Nellie's children were [just] Jack and Hector, confirming Lillian most likely as a spouse.

But the matter of when & where they married remains, as does what happened to her ...

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Australia / Re: MCDOWALL - Hector Ross. VIC MArriage and Death lookup please
« on: Wednesday 18 September 13 07:23 BST (UK)  »
Did you ever get to the bottom of this? I have been chasing the same question from the MCDOWALL side ...

Where did the info "that Hector Ross married a Lillian Iris" come from?

I had come to the conclusion the most likely scenario is that Lillian is a sibling, born after the family came back to Melbourne [where the birth index closes after 1920] from Perth [where the birth index is available to 1932].

Hector gave his NOK as "Nellie" for his [remarkably short—i.e. 4 weeks] WW2 enlistment. His mother was still alive at the time, so this might indicate he did not yet have a partner? I have put in an access request for his service file at the Archives. But unless the nominal roll is in error as to his date of discharge, it seems extremely unlikely he could have married during such a short enlistment. I cannot find any marriage for him [or for Lillian] in UK [or WA or NSW via index, or anywhere in Aus via Trove] during or after WW2 anyway.

But I note there is still no sign of a cremation like his at Springvale. And no probate.

I have so far failed to find where Hector's mother Nellie MCMULLEN was born. There is no sign of any family of John MCMULLEN & Sarah PALMER [parents in her death registration] in either Victoria or WA. There was, however, an enigmatic connection with Maryborough [presumably Vic?] at the time of Nellie's 1943 death—The Argus (Melbourne), Saturday 1943-02-27, p13: Deaths ... MCDOWALL (nee Nellie McMullen).—A tribute from Maryborough and District F R Association to our esteemed member of the committee, who passed away February 24.—Until the great reunion above. J H Smith, Pres. F J Carlyon, Secty. I can only guess what the "FR Association" was about! But for Middle Park residents, what was the connection to Maryborough sufficient to be on the comittee?

Any snippets of info would be welcome! cheers


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Jersey marriage lookup 1841-44 DAVEY-LAINÉ
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 08:54 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for this - and sorry for the lag in responding to your initial queries, as I have been travelling.

I wish James did have a middle name! But there is no evidence he did.

We do not know how long either James or Nancy may have lived on Jersey, except that he is there at the 1841 census [age 20], and she is on Guernsey. The first son John E was born on Jersey in about 1844, and they were definitely on Alderney by 1849 and the birth of their second son Thomas.

James & Nancy Davey, by then with a third son James as well as John and Thomas [with a bit of scrambling of names], appear in New Town on Alderney for the 1851 census. They moved (apparently permanently) to Guernsey by 1854 for the birth of fourth son George Frédéric, then Joselph Henry, Alfred Lainé and Lydia Hannah. Their last appearance anywhere in the census is on Guernsey in 1881.

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: Lifton parish registers - James DAVEY around 1821
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 08:05 BST (UK)  »
Very many thanks for checking this - at least this confirms that my unsuccessful attempts at finding it were probably not completely barking up the wrong tree! cheers

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Jersey marriage lookup 1841-44 DAVEY-LAINÉ
« on: Friday 08 July 11 05:53 BST (UK)  »
I am wondering if anyone is able to point me in the right direction for a marriage registration between 1841 and 1844, most likely on Jersey, between James DAVEY (born Lifton Devon around 1821) and Nancy Marguerite LAINÉ (born either Vale or St Sampsons on Guernsey around 1823, F=Samuel M=Rachel).

At the 1841 census James was [apparently on his own] in St Martin Jersey, and Nancy [with her parents and various siblings] in St Sampson Guernsey.

Their first child John E was born St Peter Jersey 1844. By 1849 [birth of the 2nd child Thomas L] and the 1851 census the family was on Alderney.

Assuming they did marry on Jersey, it is hard to know which parish is most likely? Any assistance would be much appreciated.

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Devon Lookup Requests / Lifton parish registers - James DAVEY around 1821
« on: Friday 08 July 11 03:57 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the origins of James DAVEY who appears on Jersey, Channel Is, in the 1841 census, age 20, and after marrying and having 8 children successively on Jersey, Alderney and Guernsey, finally declares his place of birth at the 1881 census as "Lifton, Devon" rather than just as "England".

Unfortunately, while we have reasonably good registrations for some of the children, we have not yet found the marriage, or the death (probably on Guernsey) of the parents, so have very little to go by other than the place given at the 1881 census.

Any help in finding his birth and thus connecting him with the relevant family in SW England would be much appreciated.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Davey's from Brightlingsea/Colchester
« on: Friday 08 July 11 03:26 BST (UK)  »
I don't think I can help with the line of inquiry relating to Daveys from Brightlingsea/Colchester, but it occurs to me that some of you who know about these things and who are closer to the thick of things (than the Antipodes in my case) may be able to shed some light on another Davey who may have contributed to the original difficulty!

I am trying to trace the Devonian and/or Cornish origins of James DAVEY, who was in St Martin on Jersey at the 1841 census, age 20, born England.

Optimistically, we might assume that he married Nancy Marguerite LAINÉ somewhere in the Channel Is around 1842, before the first of their children was born. Inquiries on Guernsey suggest it was not there. Nancy, according to all the census returns 1841 - 1881 was born on Guernsey around 1823, though there is some inconsistency as to whether it was Vale or St Sampsons.

Their first child John E was born in St Peter, Jersey, 1844. The next two, Thomas L and James Frederick, were born in St Anne, Alderney in 1849 and 1851 respectively. They then moved to Guernsey: George Frédéric 1854, William Robert 1855, Joseph Henry 1857, Alfred Lainé 1860 and Lydia Hannah 1865. As for Nancy, there is some inconsistency from one census to another as to which parish some were born, but the later ones were fairly definitely St Peter Port. At least five of the siblings ended up in Australia.

Finally, at the 1881 census, the place of birth of James DAVEY is given as Lifton, Devon, rather than just "England". But all inquiries in and around Lifton (just spitting distance from the boundary with Cornwall) have so far got me nowhere. Both James and Nancy disappear after the 1881 census, most likely dying in/around St Peter Port. I am hoping that if I ever come across marriage and/or death registrations for James I may obtain just enough additional info to break the deadlock.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find (a) the marriage between James & Nancy ~1842 (b) death or burial of James & Nancy somewhere in the 1880s? Or any other suggestions about how to proceed would be most welcome.



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Australia Lookups completed / Re: Parrett.Wife dies, new one taken.1932+
« on: Wednesday 06 July 11 06:53 BST (UK)  »
You will cringe when I say this, but the marriage of Alfred Arthur PARRETT & Julia Rosina SMITH was in Sydney! And it was the same year as the death of Martha PARRETT nee DANIELS [though it is possible AAP & Martha were estranged by the end anyway]. NSW 20394/1939 Petersham. Julia would have been born around 1886 (est. from her age in the death registration), and appears not previously to have married, but I cannot find a birth registration in either Vic or NSW.

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Australia / Re: Australian Lookups offer - PARRETT
« on: Wednesday 06 July 11 06:15 BST (UK)  »
1. Lily Aileen Parrett moved to Sydney around the outbreak of WW2. She still turned up occasionally at family events in Melbourne during the 50s and 60s. She died in Sydney in 1970, though she is buried in Melbourne at Box Hill cemetery with her parents.

2. Jessie Parrett, together with her sisters Clara & Minnie, as "the daughters in England", put an anniversary notice in The Argus 1923-12-19 p13 for their father's death. I have seen no evidence she ever returned to Australia, or married. Best shot I have seen for a possible death registration is 1965, at 93.

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