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Cork / Re: Courtney in Cork - Can you Help?
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 22:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you Scatty.
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Cork / Re: Courtney in Cork - Can you Help?
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 20:05 BST (UK) »
Scatty -
Your reply is full of detailed information. Am unable to find what you quote as the church records site - do you mean irishgenealogy.ie - civil registrations?
I hope PollyB is still reading here and sees your great find.
From the civil registrations I could see what you found,
Birth of FLORENCE MARTIN on 28 March 1910
Group Registration ID 825819
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname COURTNEY
Also the marriage
Party 1 Name JOSEPH MARTIN
Party 2 Name ANNIE COURTNEY
Date of Event 03 February 1910
Group Registration ID 2012755
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
At irishgenealogy.ie in the civil registrations it does have the IMAGE to see the civil record and it gives Annie's father as John Courtney, deceased, blacksmith and sure seems Scatty has found PollyB's family.
Your reply is full of detailed information. Am unable to find what you quote as the church records site - do you mean irishgenealogy.ie - civil registrations?
I hope PollyB is still reading here and sees your great find.
From the civil registrations I could see what you found,
Birth of FLORENCE MARTIN on 28 March 1910
Group Registration ID 825819
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname COURTNEY
Also the marriage
Party 1 Name JOSEPH MARTIN
Party 2 Name ANNIE COURTNEY
Date of Event 03 February 1910
Group Registration ID 2012755
SR District/Reg Area Dundalk
At irishgenealogy.ie in the civil registrations it does have the IMAGE to see the civil record and it gives Annie's father as John Courtney, deceased, blacksmith and sure seems Scatty has found PollyB's family.
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Cork / Re: Courtney in Cork - Can you Help?
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 19:45 BST (UK) »
I don't want to "hijack" PollyB's thread here about her "Annie Courtney Martin Sheridan" born Cork, who died in London 1955. I tried on the Kanturk 1901 Bluepool Upper, Kanturk Cork she mentioned. It really does look to me that the child Annie could be hers as a child at home - age matches and father's name John and she knew "born Cork." So I hope someone reading this thread is able to help her. On the death certificate she has, hers born approx 1887 and the 1901 she quotes is
Residents of a house 14 in Bluepool Upper (Kanturk, Cork) 1901 -
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Courtney John 56 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Courtney Edward 17 Male Son Roman Catholic
Courtney Patrick 15 Male Son Roman Catholic
Courtney Annie 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Courtney Ellie 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
But where is this family in 1911 census ?? I could not find them. And PollyB says that her Annie didnt emigrate to England until approx 1920s.
Another person posted here also, that there was an Annie Courtney born in 1897 (ten years difference in age to the one PollyB is seeking) but with the information this Annie Courtney's dad was another John Courtney who lived at Skibbereen. My note with the only way I have to contact this person by replying on this thread to him being surprised and interested about the descendant of John Courtney of Skibbereen if he will write back to me.
But yes to Sinann's post following mine, and and thank you! the father of John at Skibbereen was Timothy Courtney -of Bluid, Castlehaven Cork. I actually have an error in my first note. My John Courtney was born Cork c. 1819 "near Skibbereen" per family. His son Michael Courtney is the one who wrote to John Courtney at Skibbereen. Michael was only about 5 years old when his Cork born dad died, and the orphans did not know any more about their Irish Courtneys. We did match DNA with Courtneys from Bluid which was wonderful since the parish records of Castlehaven area do not exist early enough to include a 1819 baptism. DNA was my first way to substantiate the location, other than family notes, since the parish records do not exist. I do still hope to talk to descendants of the Courtney family just in case they know any further about mine and I would in turn be interested to hear about theirs. We have some contact with the family in Ireland still - DNA cousins - but not able yet to exactly establish where ours fit in. Very glad to hear anything at all about mine of course but again sorry popping up in PollyB's research on ones that may be from Kanturk! I really sympathize with what she calls "needle in a haystack" search and hope she can find them. Catherine
Residents of a house 14 in Bluepool Upper (Kanturk, Cork) 1901 -
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Courtney John 56 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Courtney Edward 17 Male Son Roman Catholic
Courtney Patrick 15 Male Son Roman Catholic
Courtney Annie 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Courtney Ellie 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
But where is this family in 1911 census ?? I could not find them. And PollyB says that her Annie didnt emigrate to England until approx 1920s.
Another person posted here also, that there was an Annie Courtney born in 1897 (ten years difference in age to the one PollyB is seeking) but with the information this Annie Courtney's dad was another John Courtney who lived at Skibbereen. My note with the only way I have to contact this person by replying on this thread to him being surprised and interested about the descendant of John Courtney of Skibbereen if he will write back to me.
But yes to Sinann's post following mine, and and thank you! the father of John at Skibbereen was Timothy Courtney -of Bluid, Castlehaven Cork. I actually have an error in my first note. My John Courtney was born Cork c. 1819 "near Skibbereen" per family. His son Michael Courtney is the one who wrote to John Courtney at Skibbereen. Michael was only about 5 years old when his Cork born dad died, and the orphans did not know any more about their Irish Courtneys. We did match DNA with Courtneys from Bluid which was wonderful since the parish records of Castlehaven area do not exist early enough to include a 1819 baptism. DNA was my first way to substantiate the location, other than family notes, since the parish records do not exist. I do still hope to talk to descendants of the Courtney family just in case they know any further about mine and I would in turn be interested to hear about theirs. We have some contact with the family in Ireland still - DNA cousins - but not able yet to exactly establish where ours fit in. Very glad to hear anything at all about mine of course but again sorry popping up in PollyB's research on ones that may be from Kanturk! I really sympathize with what she calls "needle in a haystack" search and hope she can find them. Catherine
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Cork / Re: Courtney in Cork - Can you Help?
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 18:14 BST (UK) »
josefregan -
I am not able to help the person seeking Mary Ann/Annie Courtney, unfortunately, but I am interested about your reply to her that John Courtney at Skibbereen was your great-grandfather. If you see this note could you reply to me please? I am related to the Courtneys of Skibbereen/Castlehaven area and we have a family letter from John Courtney of Skibbereen to my great-grandfather Michael Courtney in the U.S. I think that may be your g-grandfather? Where do you live and do you have some family history of the Skibbereen Courtneys? I would be very glad to compare what we have together with you. Also have any of you done the DNA test ? My mother has had hers and is on gedmatch. All best, Catherine Green
I am not able to help the person seeking Mary Ann/Annie Courtney, unfortunately, but I am interested about your reply to her that John Courtney at Skibbereen was your great-grandfather. If you see this note could you reply to me please? I am related to the Courtneys of Skibbereen/Castlehaven area and we have a family letter from John Courtney of Skibbereen to my great-grandfather Michael Courtney in the U.S. I think that may be your g-grandfather? Where do you live and do you have some family history of the Skibbereen Courtneys? I would be very glad to compare what we have together with you. Also have any of you done the DNA test ? My mother has had hers and is on gedmatch. All best, Catherine Green
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Longford / Re: Same family of Percivals in Longford and Leitrim
« on: Monday 04 July 11 13:58 BST (UK) »
Happy to see a Percival researcher. Would anyone know if the William Jones who m. Frances Percival (parents of Alexander) have connection with the Prestons of Co. Longford?
How could two families seem to be in two counties at roughly the same time. I have baptism of five children to John and Percival and Ann Rosemond in Clonguish Parish at Lissagernal..Alexander 1821,Elizabeth 1822,William 1824,Arthur 1828 and Eliza 1836.This was provided by Longford Genealogical society.
From the IGI (and I spoke to the man who extracted the records and sent them to the IGI..an American who was related to the Percival family)I found Alexander born 1822 son of John born Aughriman Co Leitrim and William born abt 1828 Aughriman Kiltoghert Leitrim, Elizabeth 1831 Aughriman too and Thomas. Now I have met the grandchildren of Thomas. They also claim that John Percival and Anne Rosemond are their g grandparents, in fact they showed me the grave and knew the inscription on it. The grave is in Drumshambo,Kiltoghert Co Leitrim.
Anne Rosemond's family were from Co Leitrim.
I need hep urgently as I am flying to NZ tomorrow to discuss THE TREE with another descendent of Thomas.
I am descended from Arthur. There was definitely a John Percival paying tithes in Lissagernal in 1829-33
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