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Hi Peter, Take what you read in the newspapers with a grain of salt!  There is a lot more involved than was peddled in the press of the time.  Because he became well-known, more was attributed to him than he was responsible for.  When he was jailed a few years after his marriage, he spent 10 years in prison.  He was mistakenly released in the place of someone else, and when he learned it was a mistake, he handed himself back in so that the person who was supposed to be released could be.  As a result he was given a pardon.  He had a legitimate jewellery shop and a second-hand business where he took full advantage of re-selling stolen goods sold to him cheaply by those who stole them.  He was certainly on the wrong side of the law but he also had a 'code of honour' of sorts and is not guilty of all that was laid at his door.  It was popular at the time to vilify jews, especially rich ones.  The newspaper account of his escape when returning from his court appearance is inaccurate and highly coloured.  His wife was not guilty of any criminal activity, but his brother was bribed by the police to plant evidence that got her transported to Tasmania.  When Isaac learned of it, in disregard for his personal liberty, he immediately sailed for the penal colony to see if he could help her.  That is not the action of a selfish person.  Although previously a law-breaker, he was respected in Tasmania to the extent that he kept government account books and was considered an accurate and honest book-keeper.  The most respected lawyer in the colony stood guarantor for him and a number of the colony's gentlemen and 'top brass' got together to pay a bond demanded by the British prosecutor.  He was very intelligent, and thoroughly annoyed the constabulary in London because he could run rings around them in verbal altercation.  You may have heard that the novel "The Potato Factory" is supposed to be the story of his life, however, the bulk of it is solely imaginary and there is very little fact in it.  We considered taking a libel suit against the writer, however, because he called it a 'novel' he can say what he likes.  Ikey was undoubtedly a colourful character and deserved his imprisonment, but he was not the ridiculous or sinister figure that he was made out to be by the press of the day.  Charles Dickens was a young reporter at the time of Ikey's third trial and the strong similarity between the trial transcript and the trial of Fagin in 'Oliver Twist' has led to speculation that Dickens modelled his account of Fagin's trial on that of Ikey.  However, there is no other congruence between the experience of Ikey and the character of Fagin although a lot of people wrongly assert that Ikey was the character reference for the creation of Fagin.  A lot of research has gone into peeling back the layers of misinformation to reveal the real person at the heart of all that was written about him.   It is interesting to be able to look at the old newspapers and see what society thought about him at the time.  I have copies of all the articles I've been able to find about him.  I think that coming to Australia was a blessing for his family, because they were able to rise to places in society that they never would have been permitted to hold had they remained in England.  It can be strange how things turn out!  Thanks for keeping in touch.    Star

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Thank you very much, Peter.  Ikey is my 4x great grandfather and I have a lot of information about him and his wife but have not followed his daughter's family lines very much, Sarah's least of all.  I am descended from Isaac and Hannah's son, David.  So I really appreciate having this information about her family.  Thank you for taking the time to send it to me.     S.

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Thank you for your message, Peter.  It is always great to have contact with people who are connected to our family! Do you have any information about Ashur and Ann's family and their dates and place of death?      Star

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London and Middlesex / Re: "Help" The Infamous Ikey SOLOMON, London,NewYork,Tasmania.
« on: Sunday 22 December 13 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hello star48 ....I think I'm also a descendant of ikey. ..do you know the names of the other children. ..was there John and David...because those names keep popping up in my family tree
Hi, Ikey and Hannah Solomon's children were:- John (Ya'kov) born 1808 d.25 Jul 1889, Moses b. 1809 d. 4 Aug 1896, David b. 1818/9 d. 21 Aug 1860, Anne (Nancy) b. 12 Jan 1820 d.?, Sarah b. 4 Oct 1823 d. 1882, Mark b. 1825 d. 24 Jan 1877.  All of these married in Australia and had their families in Australia.  It is unlikely that any would have descendant lines in England although I do know of grandchildren of Ikey who lived in England for a time.  John and David are both popular names in Jewish families. ( The reason for the large gap between Moses and David is that Ikey was in prison during that period!)

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Australia / Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« on: Sunday 15 January 12 12:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Have just noticed this thread.  You probably have it all solved, but in case not, Susannah Jenner, who married William Burton 1878 in Orange was born 4 Feb 1862 at Kings Plains, Blayney to James Jenner and Philadelphia nee Harvey - V18625043 121 B (they are our ancestors, too). Family researcher has been to Blayney and looked up the old records.  Susannah died 27 Mar 1884 in childbirth.#12835

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Noble Tarburton - Knaresborough
« on: Sunday 03 July 11 23:03 BST (UK)  »
Yes, it is: thanks for your interest, I am still looking!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Noble Tarburton - Knaresborough
« on: Monday 27 June 11 02:11 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to discover the marriage and maiden surname of Ann who married Noble Tarburton.  Noble was christened as Noble Tarbison, son of John Tarbison and Grace Noble 10 August 1732.  Noble and Ann Tarburton are recorded as being the parents of twins who were buried in Knaresborough in December 1777.  John Tarbeson who married Mary Thompson in Knaresborough 10 Dec 1787 listed Noble Tarbeson as his father's name.  The spelling of his family's surname was very fluid at that time.  Any help will be greatly appreciated as I have been trying to answer this question for about 10 years.

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Have just noticed your message from last year and hope I can help with your question regarding John Solomon, son of Ikey.  I am descended from a brother of John.  John was born in London in 1808, & married Elizabeth Harris in Sydney when aged 48, in 1856.  They had at least nine children, none of whom were named Louisa.  The years between his arrival in Australia in 1828 and his marriage 28 years later are well documented and were spent in Hobart until 1834 when he moved to Sydney.  He was a merchant and landowner, publican and gold dealer, which made him very rich.  (Ikey & Hannah had 4 sons and 2 daughters, all born in England.  Only a few of their descendants remained in Tasmania after 1860.)  There were at least three unrelated Solomon families in Tasmania - the largest of which were the descendants of Joseph Solomon of Evandale, Tas and his brother, Judah.  There were also prominent Solomon families in Melbourne and Adelaide. 

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