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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Burial register lookup please
« on: Thursday 23 August 12 14:53 BST (UK)  »
My great aunt Alice Maud FENTIMAN died in Fair Mile Hospital on 30 August 1908 at the age of 33, and was buried on 3rd September. The National Burial Index specifies the burial place as the County Lunatic Asylum, but I have not located any other burials there, nor is any cemetery listed or mapped in the current forms for planning change of use applications. Another source suggested she is buried in Cholsey churchyard, but I have not been able to find a reference to a grave there either. Can anyone identify where she might actually be?

Ta

Roger

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Fentiman, living in Clapham in 1805
« on: Sunday 26 June 11 14:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi

No, I'm not a descendant. My family name is unusual (less than 400 in the UK in 2002), so I'm involved in a one-name study. My best guess on the evidence at present is that there are two families with the name, one from Yorkshire probably descended from John, Fenton's man, who was steward for the Fenton family in Swillington, near Leeds, recorded in the poll tax records in 1379; the other descended from people who settled in Bedfordshire in the early 1500s, possibly Huguenot refugees (though the timings are a bit suspect). There may be only one family, but I have not found the links yet.

I am from the Bedfordshire line; I think the London family was from the Yorkshire line, though I haven't proved that yet. Certainly the family held property in Yorkshire, according to their wills. There was a John Fentiman, bricklayer, in York in 1723, who may be the John who was father of William and Isabella, but that is circumstantial evidence only.

By the way, the Fentiman Arms, as displayed outside the pub of that name in Fentiman Road, Vauxhall, aren't the Fentiman arms at all; they were appropriated from the KILLIGREW family, who were notable Devonshire sea-going people who included a famous lady pirate captain and a notable poetess. Isabella Fentiman married Captain George Augustus Killigrew, which did not transfer any right to the arms, but since the Killigrews are even thinner on the ground than Fentimans (68 in the UK in 2002), they seem not to have mounted an objection to the theft.

I'm happier transferring large amounts of data by e-mail than otherwise. Please send an e-mail to
roger.fentiman(AT-symbol)gmail.com for more.

Regards

Roger

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Fentiman, living in Clapham in 1805
« on: Sunday 26 June 11 10:38 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Hyde FENTIMAN (1757 - ~1820) was a builder and lime merchant in Greenwich. In 1816 he married Mary LOAT; his brother John (1747 - 1820) was in partnership with Lancelot LOAT as land speculators, brick makers and builders, responsible for much of the East India Docks and Exeter Gaol, among much else.

Long before his marriage, Thomas had an affair with Anne USHER, resulting in the birth of an illegitimate daughter Patience USHER in 1804. Her paternity was the subject of a Poor Law examination in 1805 (Clapham p.25/TRI/1/22 Vol. 1789/1814), where Thomas was named as the father.

Lots more on this interesting family, especially the rather tempestuous John remembered in Fentiman Road, on request.

But: does anyone know where William (~1709 - 1796), father of John and Thomas, was born? I suspect the family came from Yorkshire, but I have no real data.

Roger Fentiman

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