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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 14:49 BST (UK) »
Well that will show me not to get ahead of myself!!
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Sunday 11 May 25 03:09 BST (UK) »
Yes mckha489 - I have a few marriage certificates like that.
I've never been able to find any trace of the father (Richard Keiley, carpenter) in England, although I've never looked at Bristol previously. I do see there's a Richard Kelley death in 1855 in Bristol - so maybe?!
Will be interesting to see what the orphan archives can tell me.
Thanks for your insight!
Louise
I've never been able to find any trace of the father (Richard Keiley, carpenter) in England, although I've never looked at Bristol previously. I do see there's a Richard Kelley death in 1855 in Bristol - so maybe?!
Will be interesting to see what the orphan archives can tell me.
Thanks for your insight!
Louise
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Saturday 10 May 25 22:48 BST (UK) »
KGarrad
I've always had the opinion that they were married by license because of his being in the Marines and possibly not having much certainty about where he would be. It is interesting that they say she has no parents on the license but I thought that was likely easier than dealing with her parents perhaps being alive still in Ireland. In the marriage register they name her father (Richard) and it doesn't say 'deceased'. As you say, why not just claim to be 21, but we'll never know the answer to that one!!
I would never have thought she'd be in Bristol as an orphan in 1861, but it's definitely an interesting possibility isn't it - particularly since its says she's born London. I had always worked on the theory that they met in London with her being recently arrived from Ireland, then after a time in Plymouth ended up in Bristol because he's from nearby Box/Bath.
I have given Martha so much of my time and would love to know more about her! Maybe this is the link? Mullers' Orphanage is just a mile from Lower Ashley Rd. I've made a request to see whether they may have any helpful information in their archive.
Thank you!
I've always had the opinion that they were married by license because of his being in the Marines and possibly not having much certainty about where he would be. It is interesting that they say she has no parents on the license but I thought that was likely easier than dealing with her parents perhaps being alive still in Ireland. In the marriage register they name her father (Richard) and it doesn't say 'deceased'. As you say, why not just claim to be 21, but we'll never know the answer to that one!!
I would never have thought she'd be in Bristol as an orphan in 1861, but it's definitely an interesting possibility isn't it - particularly since its says she's born London. I had always worked on the theory that they met in London with her being recently arrived from Ireland, then after a time in Plymouth ended up in Bristol because he's from nearby Box/Bath.
I have given Martha so much of my time and would love to know more about her! Maybe this is the link? Mullers' Orphanage is just a mile from Lower Ashley Rd. I've made a request to see whether they may have any helpful information in their archive.
Thank you!
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Saturday 10 May 25 18:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks KGarrad - looks likely that she was institutionalized - I'll do a little more digging around those two possibilities in that area.
Appreciate everyone's help!
Appreciate everyone's help!
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Saturday 10 May 25 00:07 BST (UK) »
I just realized that in 1921, my gt granddparents are living at 52 Lower Ashley Rd, which is given as Martha's home address on the death certificate. Louisa Mountjoy (Martha's daughter), and her husband Nicholas are their with their 6 children, but no mention of Martha.
Maybe safe to assume that Martha is already institutionalized.
Thanks everyone for your input and insights!
Louise
Maybe safe to assume that Martha is already institutionalized.
Thanks everyone for your input and insights!
Louise
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Friday 09 May 25 23:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks KGarrad - I did see that record in the archives, and think that's most likely where she was when she died.
However, when I search on Snowdon Rd. in the 1921 census, no-one that seems to match her is there.
Will have to spend some more time digging around Lower Ashley Rd I think.
Thanks!
Louise
However, when I search on Snowdon Rd. in the 1921 census, no-one that seems to match her is there.
Will have to spend some more time digging around Lower Ashley Rd I think.
Thanks!
Louise
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Friday 09 May 25 23:34 BST (UK) »
mckha489
I don't see her in the batch I can find when I search on 'Lower Ashley Rd', but I'm having trouble finding the specific address - will take a bit more time to search and hopefully find it!
Thank you
I don't see her in the batch I can find when I search on 'Lower Ashley Rd', but I'm having trouble finding the specific address - will take a bit more time to search and hopefully find it!
Thank you
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Friday 09 May 25 22:01 BST (UK) »
Alam - I think she could write - she appears to have signed the marriage register, but I understand that may have been an issue.
Thanks for your insights.
Thanks for your insights.
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1921 Census - missing Gt Gt Grandmother
« on: Friday 09 May 25 21:43 BST (UK) »
Good call Mabel - I knew someone would help me out here.
I do have her death certificate. It gives her address as 52 Lower Ashley Rd, but her place of death as 'Snowdon Buildings' Fishponds with a part of cause of death being 'Senile Dementia'.
No hope then of any further helpful information from her in 1921.
Thanks for helping me figure this out.
Louise
I do have her death certificate. It gives her address as 52 Lower Ashley Rd, but her place of death as 'Snowdon Buildings' Fishponds with a part of cause of death being 'Senile Dementia'.
No hope then of any further helpful information from her in 1921.
Thanks for helping me figure this out.
Louise