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Could be,he is down as a bricksetter in 1901, but just can't be sure, still don't understand why he doesn't show up in 1871 with his father Joseph,william
Hi,He married an Elizabeth Stevenson,in 1891 they were living in 308 Oldham rd newton Manchester, He was a Bricklayer, the witnesses were Thomas Young and Mary Vernon( who later Married),He never appears on a Census with a Joseph as a Father that i can see, this is about all I know .William
Is he down as a bricksetter in 1901 census?
I wonder if this is him in 1881?
Toxteth Park, Lancs
James Jones lodger 21 born Buckley Wales, labourer
Head of household is James Bostock 38 born Buckley, Flint, brick maker
The birth places of the Bostock family are all down as Buckley but James Bostock is elsewhere as born Hawarden so Buckley may be used as the handiest place.
HiHave seen that record but can't understand why I can't find a confirmation on any census, nothing shows up on Ancestry william
Just in case the information is new, http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/ has births listed by sub-registration district. Sometimes that is helpful.
Do you think the baptism (IGI extracted) at Cilcain in Dec 1859 is too far away from Holywell itself? The father is down as Jope. Cilcain is in the Holywell district (Mold 4 subdistrict according to Genuki).
There is also the possibility that the birth wasn't registered.not sure where to look for baptism records,
Youmay be looking for a baptism record only
Suz
Hi,I had been sending for every entry individually, but I was told on roots chat that I could just ask for those with a father named Joseph and they sent my money back saying no record existed 1859/60, I had already done 1861,William
I found 14 possible births all James Jones born Holywell, North Wales between 1858-1861. Are you unable to find these entries or do you mean you have checked all possibilities out?
Shellyb
There is this census record -a long shot -but who knows???I have actually put this down as the only possibility to the problem, but just cannot understand why there is no birth record to confirm or deny this in holywell, thank you for your efforts william
1861
Brynford St Holywell Flints
JOSEPH JONES Head M 34 Ostler
Hannah wife 30
Charlotte daughter 12
Peter son 9
Daniel son 7
Mary Ann daughter 5
Elleanor dauughter 2
next door
Edward Jones Head M 68 lab
Annie wife 62
Margaret daughter U 21 charwoman
Hannah daughter U 18 Charwoman
JAMES Grandson 1
all b Holywell
could James be son of Joseph /Hannah and be next door with his grandparents on census night???
RG9 4269 46 3
Suz
Hi,Hi,He married an Elizabeth Stevenson,in 1891 they were living in 308 Oldham rd newton Manchester, He was a Bricklayer, the witnesses were Thomas Young and Mary Vernon( who later Married),He never appears on a Census with a Joseph as a Father that i can see, this is about all I know .William
Jones is often a very difficult name to research -especially form Walea -there are so many!
First of all could you post more information -then we will see what we can find
Who did james Jones marry?
Where did they live after marriage?
On marriage cert what is Joseph's occupation?
Who are the witnesses? They may be related to James???
Suz
When you want them to check fathers name you must order it and say that you do NOT know the ref number- or that will override the rest.
It will then take you to another page where you can specify fathers name/or whatever.
You can't check censuses by address on Ancestry,except the 1881,only on Find My Past.What did it say his father did on the marriage cert?
Carol Hi,thanks for that, His father Joseph's occupation is hard to make out but possibly "joiner",as James is a bricklayer that might fit. also I cannot find any James Jones born 1860 ish in holywell with a father Joseph on any census at all, and therefore only pick him up at his marriage in 1883 in manchester, the shame of it is I lived with my Grandfather William Jones son of James,but never asked him ,wasn't interested then.William