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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: 1811/21 Hackney Silk/Crape workers look up
« on: Tuesday 07 June 11 21:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Valda -

Apparently the parish copies of these early census returns survive for Hackney which give some of this extra information.

Luke

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Hackney 1811/1821 look up please.
« on: Tuesday 07 June 11 21:28 BST (UK)  »
Yes, the Old Bailey case is the only reference that I have showing Richard's connection to the crape mills. I have nothing further on Thomas Taplin apart from a reference to his partnership with John Baylis and Joseph Grout being dissolved in 1812. (John Baylis also seems likely to be the 'Bayliss' mentioned in Smith's evidence). Grout (who was also from Hackney) and Baylis opened a crape mill in Norwich in about 1807, and one at Ponders End in Enfield in about 1809. I'm not yet sure where Thomas got involved or exactly who he was.

There does seem to have been cross-overs between some people who worked in various crape manufacturing firms in the late 18th and 19th centuries, so I am wondering if Thomas is the same person as the Thomas who married Mary Ann Beverley in Stepney in 1797 and had sons Edwin, George and Edward in Hackney, and if so, if he had connections to Smith's mills. He seems to disappear from Hackney after 1805.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: 1811/21 Hackney Silk/Crape workers look up
« on: Monday 06 June 11 20:43 BST (UK)  »
Yes, besides the Hackney Wick mills he had a London address at Paternoster Row near St Pauls from the 1790s. There was also a crape weaving mill at Taunton from 1795.

He went out of business in the late 1820s, but one former employee may have been John Baylis who set up Baylis and Grout with another Hackney resident, Joseph Grout, in about 1807.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / 1811/21 Hackney Silk/Crape workers look up
« on: Monday 06 June 11 19:52 BST (UK)  »
I'm interested in knowing if anyone has access to the 1811 Hackney census returns. In particular I'd like to know the names/occupations of those who were listed adjacent to Leny Smith who owned the silk and crape mills at Hackney Wick, or the names of any others in the parish whose occupations indicate a connection to the crape industry in particular.

Many thanks,
Luke

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Hackney 1811/1821 look up please.
« on: Monday 06 June 11 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Robin -

A Richard Taplin was buried in St John's Hackney in 1809.  Someone of the same name was foreman at Leny Smith's crape mill in Hackney Wick in 1801. Is this the Richard you have been looking at? What else do you know about him?

I'm interested in a possible connection to a Thomas Taplin who was an partner with Joseph Grout and John Baylis in a crape manufacturing business operating from Norwich and Enfield in about 1809/10/11/12.

Luke

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