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Messages - katyduddridge

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The Ernest & Carmen in 1901 certainly look likely.

So do you think Ernest or John William is the stage name? JWC surely? Though he seems happy to chop & change as and when it suits him!

Can I ask Mort - what sources are you using? On Ancestry/Free BMD I can't find the same things as you  ???

Firefighter - thank you so much for your email!! My mother-in-law (ie your 2nd cousin) is very excited!, will email you back with more info about her/husband's family.

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Wow!

I've spent years stuck on Victor and got further in the last few days than in all those years.

I will get looking at all those bits of info now (if all the kids stay asleep for me, I could do with farming them out when I want to concentrate on family tree!!) kt :)

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Well, grr, didn't those census takers back then realise how much we'd rely on them?!

So, after thinking yesterday I was finally going to make a breakthrough with this line, I appear to be stuck again.

Hopefully the person I'm waiting to reply to my email will get back to me with further info.

If I find anything else out, I'll try and remember to pop back :)

(Think I'm meant to move this to 'completed' now but not sure how to do that?) - figured it out :)

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Census - GIBBINS look-up please
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 18:34 BST (UK)  »
Oh boo was getting all excited there for a minute!

How likely do you think it is that people could actually be missed out? If they were camping in a field with the circus & no-one knew they were there?

Have found Mary Mewburn (Margaret's mother) in 1881, husband absent & no sign of Margaret.

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Census - GIBBINS look-up please
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 17:31 BST (UK)  »
Wow...could that be him? It could be Gibbins.....

The story goes that the parents were killed by the lions (not so great at their lion-taming job then?!) and orphan Victor signed up to the army as a young boy.

Hmm...dinner is calling but I'll be back to think some more :)

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Census - GIBBINS look-up please
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 17:08 BST (UK)  »
Ladyhawk - thank you. I had to look them up myself just to see the address (!) but no you are right, they must have moved on, boo.

Mort29 - do you think it's Lancaster then? Not that it massively affects anything really as it's not like i have 2 choices of John's I'm fighting between!
Thanks so much for your efforts, that Margaret Hannah does look likely, esp as she's listed as MEWBURN in bmd born in Stockton.

(off to look at a map now as I have no real idea where these places are!)

kt:)

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Census - GIBBINS look-up please
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Oh but I did forget that I found John in 1881 when he gives his birthplace as Leicester (though it's transcribed as Lancaster) and he's 20 hence approx DoB of 1860/1.

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Census - GIBBINS look-up please
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 16:29 BST (UK)  »
No they disappear :(

It's been a brick wall until yesterday when I looked up Victor in the 1911 census.

As I've been looking for a Victor GibbOns with a father called Ernest (from his marr cert) I was stuck as he doesn't exist!

In 1911 he calls himself GibbOns but born in Hastings which led me to Victor GibbIns & I already had his birth cert (some over-enthusiastic ordering years ago when I was just guessing who he could be!) which gives his parents. On Victor's marriage cert he gives his father as Ernest GIBBONS (deceased) Actor.

His birth cert gives John William Cove GibbIns also an actor. (and I have found someone - waiting for reply - whose grandmother's birth cert gave this man's name and yet she also believed her father was called Ernest. So John or Ernest could have been his stage name?).

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Leicestershire / Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Totally Leics - I wonder if I can ask if you might connect with some Gibbinses I'm researching?

I have a John William Cove GIBBINS b. approx 1860 in Leicester (according to the 1881 census) who is a bit of a mystery at the moment.
He may also have been known as Ernest (his son certainly thought so anyway!).

I have him in Hastings, Sussex in 1890 when his son Victor Arthur was born but can't find him so far after that.
Also, Victor seemed to change his name to GIBBONS which confuses things further.

John/Ernest calls himself an 'actor' - family story goes that he worked in the circus (a lion tamer along with his wife who were both killed by the lions....) - so I think he might be fairly itinerant, though he was in Hastings in 1881 too.

He married Margaret Hannah MEWBURN (though can't find the marriage) sometime between 1881 & 1890. She is a bit of a mystery too.

Any help appreciated, Katy

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