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perhaps we can trade notes.  See my other post on Raffrey/Raffery at the link below - looking for more info on my McIlveen/Geddis/Findley/Hewitt and other relations in N. Ireland:


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=482812.0

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re:  portions of your entry related to a "McIlveen" name and Raffrey.

See my other recent posting of Raffrey/Raffery, where portion of my family tree definitel resided in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

In your posting, you mention an Isabella McIlveen, married in 1838 at Killinchy Parish.


"The marriage record gives Samuel's residence as Raffrey (which I do not see on Google Maps, but may be in County Down), and his father as

Gen 3
Alexander Conkey, Laborer
b. 1814 Ireland (family record)
d. 1889 Ireland (family record)
Laborer, servant
Here they do not have a wife.

I have found an IGI record, no sources given, that he was born 1817, died 1900 and married Isabella McIlveen in 1838, Killinchy Parish, B Macreely, Down, Ireland. (Where is B Macreely?)"

a) 

Since the place name matches (Raffery), it is possible that my McIlveens were related to Isabella McIlveen mentioned above.

From my family history:

Robert McIlveen, b. 1827, d. 1/5/1907, m. Jane Hewitt 8/8/1859? (Jane was born in 1839 in Raffery, County Down, d. 4/18/1909.  (see marriage certificate copy and scan, from 1st Pres. Church at Killinchy).  Jane’s parents were William Hewitt and Veronica Geddis.

They lived on a farm called Raffery, which was originally owned by Jane Hewitt’s parents (?).

Gravestone at Church of Ireland, Killinchy, says

“ Erected in memory of Wm. Hewitt of Raffery who departed this life March 11, 1840 age 50 years, also his wife Veronica Hewitt alias Geddis who died Sept. 17th 1884 age 100 years, also Robert McIlveen of Comber who died January 5th, 1907, age 80 years also his wife Jane Hewitt McIlveen who died April 17,  1909 age 70 years also their son Robert McIlveen of Raffery who died April 29, 1927 age 76 years also his three sons who died in infancy.

At other end of plot is small headstone reading “In memory of Robert McIlveen of Raffery died 29 April 1927 age 76 years and Charlotte McIlveen died 27th Nov. 1937 age 84 years.”


b)  Raffrey

I have a "paper" map of County Down that shows Raffrey as a place name, not far from Killinchy.  I think it came from family history pages my uncle Mel McIlveen sent me about 1995 - he had visited Raffrey and Northern Ireland at some point in the years before that time.

You can also find a map on this link, showing Raffrey in between Saintfield and Shrigley, on/not far off Manse Road, several miles northwest of Killyleigh on Strangford Lough:
http://www.yourlocalweb.co.uk/county-down/raffrey/map/




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Down / Re: Raffery or Raffrey - Co Down
« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 16:17 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for information on McIlveen ancestors who lived at Raffery in Co Down, or current relations in the areas around Belfast:

-1.  Robert McIlveen, b. 1827, d. 1/5/1907, m. Jane Hewitt 8/8/1859? (Jane was born in 1839 in Raffery, County Down, d. 4/18/1909).  (see marriage certificate copy and scan, from 1st Pres. Church at Killinchy).  Jane’s parents were William Hewitt and Veronica Geddis.

They lived on a farm called Raffery, which was originally owned by Jane Hewitt’s parents (?).

Gravestone at Church of Ireland, Killinchy, says

“ Erected in memory of Wm. Hewitt of Raffery who departed this life March 11, 1840 age 50 years, also his wife Veronica Hewitt alias Geddis who died Sept. 17th 1884 age 100 years, also Robert McIlveen of Comber who died January 5th, 1907, age 80 years also his wife Jane Hewitt McIlveen who died April 17,  1909 age 70 years also their son Robert McIlveen of Raffery who died April 29, 1927 age 76 years also his three sons who died in infancy.

At other end of plot is small headstone reading “In memory of Robert McIlveen of Raffery died 29 April 1927 age 76 years and Charlotte McIlveen died 27th Nov. 1937 age 84 years.”

Robert McIlveen (b. 1851) was a working shoemaker before sewing machines, and originally had his business in the town of Ballyrussel, moving later to Belfast, eventually employing a staff of ten people in his Belfast factory.  When sewing machines made manual shoemaking impractical, he returned to Raffery and farming.


0.  Robert McIlveen (1827-1/5/1907)
   in Killinchy, m. Jane Hewitt (b. 1839, m. 8/8/1850?, d. 4/17/1909),  children included (?)

Robert McIlveen b. 8/24/51, Margaret Jane McIlveen (6/15/1866 in Ballymachen, Co Down) and John (Comber) McIlveen (b 7/17/1872 in Ballymachen, Co Down).. 

1.  Robert (b. 8/24/1851) and Charlotte Elizabeth (Hunter) McIlveen (1853-1937).
         Robert d. 4/20/1927 in Lisborn, Northern Ireland.

Children:  Robert Hunter, Ellen, Mary Anna, Elizabeth Findley, Jane, Samuel, William
William and Sam emigrated to Canada around 1910, the rest of the family stayed in or near Belfast.

2.   Robert Hunter (1874-1948)
2.   Ellen (1876-1934)
2.   Mary Anna (1879-1953)
2.   Elizabeth (1881-1955)
2.   Margaret Jane (6/15/1876-1958)
2.   Samuel Patton (1885-1972)
2.  William McIlveen, (1888-1965)

2. James Findley (1890 – 1958),  m. Gertrude Scott, child Florence Polly E. (who married Robert Gibson, and d. 1988.  Robert Gibson d. 1985).
 
2.  John (1892 – 1895)
2.  John Hunter (1895 – 1963), m. Emily Dornan (1900-1963)

Sam was born in 1885, m. Ellen Kane (1887-1977), children (*) & John (Jack) Wesley, d. 1972.  Sam’s wife Ellen attended the marriage of (*).

3.  Jack McIlveen

Born  8/24/1924 in Winnipeg, d. 11/27/00 in Victoria BC, m.  (*), children (*)

2.  William McIlveen, b. 1888, d. 1965, m. Elsie Shave / / 191_, ) - my grandparents

New info (2011) indicates that the location name was spelled one way in the 2 census records near the start of the 20th century (1901 and 1911 - Raffrey in one, Raffery in the other).

(*) details of people who might still be living removed

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