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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Bath Parish record for Kezia GRAY
« on: Wednesday 21 November 12 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nebusta,
How interesting to hear for you. I am not sure that I have much to offer other than the names from my old family tree which are unsubstantiated. I am not sure when the tree was done but I think around World War I when my German rooted family where trying to establish their English credentials. I have found it to be accurate on all other details so I feel inclined to believe that the details of Hephzibah and Nebusta are correct, there is just a name and dob (probably christening).

I was interested to see you have Joseph Hornblower's wives as Rebecca Haywood and Mary Bright. I had Rebecca Potter and an unknown wife, so thanks. Can you tell me the source of that information?

I also have Joseph's parents as Edmund Hornblower and Mary Carpenter, but with no source substantiation.

I shall have another dig around in that side of my tree and see if anything more turns up

All the best
Julia

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Bath Parish record for Kezia GRAY
« on: Saturday 11 August 12 14:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks very much.

 I have made no headway with her or brother Jesse but did make some progress on John Grays children with Jane Gover

Let's hope something turns up

Julia

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Bath Parish record for Kezia GRAY - COMPLETED
« on: Friday 10 August 12 09:42 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Cynfran on Tuesday 21 February 12 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Kris
Glad to let you know that I've (at last - 2 years!) confirmed 'John Gray' as my gg grandfather. Thanks to recently released newspaper archives, I have found an announcement for the marriage of 'John Gray, Apothecary, to Kezia Hornblower', John indeed having trained and traded at that time as an apothecary, as did his son.
Thank you again for your contribution to this result.
Regards
Cynfran


Hi Cynfran,

I wonder if you have any further information about Keziah Hornblower who married John Gray.

I have someone of that name born abt 1768 as the daughter of Jabez Carter Hornblower and Mary John. This comes from an old family tree without citations and I have not found anything else about her in my searches. According to my tree she had siblings Hephzibah (b 1768), Nebusta (b 1770) and Jabez John (1773) all unsubstantiated. They would have been born in Cornwall I believe.

The supposed father, Jabez Carter Hornblower remarried after the death of Mary (c. 1781 I think) to Ann Hanbury in 1875, going on to have 4 more children, Annetta Hanbury Hornblower, Eliza Hanbury Hornblower, Jemima Hanbury Hornbloser and Jabez  Hanbury Hornblower.

I wonder, if my Keziah and yours were the same person.
Thanks if you can help
Julia

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Worcestershire / Re: Lookup request BISSELL Ann or Nancy in Dudley
« on: Thursday 12 April 12 12:21 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much for that information Ciderdrinker.

Nancy Stevens is my 6xggMo so it would seem we are cousins however many times removed. I would love any other information that you have on the Stevens side of things.
cheers
Julia

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Worcestershire / Re: Lookup request BISSELL Ann or Nancy in Dudley
« on: Tuesday 10 April 12 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Dear Ciderdrinker,
Thanks for the information, it looks like the Baker connection is the more likely one for Nancy (and Joseph's ) mother.

I shall ferret about ans see what turns up
many thanks
Julia

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Worcestershire / Re: Lookup request BISSELL Ann or Nancy in Dudley
« on: Friday 06 April 12 23:18 BST (UK)  »
Wow that was quick, many thanks Jackie, most obliged
Julia
 :D

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Worcestershire / Lookup request BISSELL Ann or Nancy in Dudley
« on: Friday 06 April 12 00:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am trying to establish when Ann (aka Nancy) Bissell nee Stevens died some time between 1851 and 1861. There are several likely candidates in FreeBMD and rather than spend my hard-earned ordering all the certificates I thought I would ask one of you lovely people to look up the parish registers on my behalf and nearrow the field (it's a bit far from Australia to do myself :o).

Details:
Ann Bissell nee Stevens b 1795
Husband William Bissell, engineer b 1795
In the 1851 census she was living at 6 Scott's Green, Dudley with William, her 2 living children John (20, a gas holder maker) and Elizabeth (24) and a visitor Elizabeth Smith (8). In that entry she was called Nancy.
William was a widower in the 1861 census but still at Scott's Green

From FreeBMD
Mar 1851 BISSELL Ann Dudley 18 305   
Dec 1852  BISSELL Ann Stourbridge  6c 75   
Jun 1853   Bissell  Ann Dudley  6c 7   
Mar 1853 Bissell Nancy Dudley 6c 63
Jun 1858  Bissell Nancy Dudley 6c 66   
Jun 1859  BISSELL Nancy Dudley 6c 74

I would also be interested to know who her parents were. She married William 31 Aug 1817 at Kingswinford, Stafford

Many thanks for any assistance

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Other Countries / Re: Hearsey/Salmon family Hon East India Co
« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 05:17 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: crystalight on Tuesday 31 May 11 18:40 BST (UK)
amazing where all the dust comes from  :o

Hi Crystal,

Thanks for the warm welcome.

I once found a dessicated frog caught up in the dust balls under the couch. I felt so sad for it, trapped there and dying of thirst, that I lifted my game a little and made sure I vacuumed behind the couch in future!

Yes, my connection is with Grace Ann Hillhouse (1833-1898) . She was my first cousin 5 times removed, ie the niece of my 4x great grand mother Eliza Hanbury Hornblower (now there's a name hey?)

I have 5 children from her marriage with George Paris Salmon
1. Harry Salmon (1856)
2. Nora Salmon (1858-1930)
3. Mordaunt Reynolds (1861-1863)
4. Helen Salmon (1864-1911) - ref is from Family Search Scotland ODM
5. William Salmon (1865) - ref is 1891 Scotland census

As far as I can determine, Harry is the only one to have had children. He married Florence Maud Mary Shaw Barnsley and had 4 children with her. They lived in Australia and New Zealand. One of Harry's grandsons (well the only one I have found actually) was William Hearsey McMillan Salmon who was a historian and professor at Bryn Mawr College.

Nora married James Turner Perkins (b.1854) from USA but did not have any children that I can find.

I haven't found much about Helen or William to date.

They all seem to have been remarkable people for whom learning was important. There are inventors (I was interested to learn of the Babbage connection) and teachers galore scattered through the family tree. It explains alot of what is valued in my own family and shows how values can be transmitted down the line even from those ancestors long forgotten by those alive. We inherit more than DNA.

all the best

Julia

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Other Countries / Re: Hearsey/Salmon family Hon East India Co
« on: Tuesday 31 May 11 07:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: marione on Sunday 12 December 10 17:06 GMT (UK)
I was so interested to read this as I heard the same story from my grandparents who died in the 1970's.  I am a direct descendant of Mrs Hearsey, so the unfortunate Marian who perished in the torrent would have been some sort of great-great aunt.  I also read about this occurrence somewhere on the internet, though it was a different source as not exactly the same wording as you have used.

What a lovely exchange, I enjoyed reading it. Sorry I can't join in the "coz"-ing but I am connected to George Paris Salmon's second wife and therefore think there is no Hearsey connection.

Nonetheless I have found what is probably the reference for the story about Marian's demise which is told by Sir John Hearsey in Chapter VI of "The Hearseys Five Generations Of An Anglo Indian Family" by Col Hugh Pearse. It can be found at Internet Archive http://www.archive.org/stream/hearseysfivegene030861mbp/hearseysfivegene030861mbp_djvu.txt

Isn't it fun, being on the genealogical hunt, and doesn't the house get dirty? ;D

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