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Essex / Re: Essex Chamberlains - need answers!
« on: Monday 06 June 11 08:02 BST (UK)  »
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I looks to me as if, George CHAMBERLAIN, Percy's father was born abt 1827/28 to William CHAMBERLAIN and Mary nee CONNEL/COWEL, later Mrs Peter HART) and had:
   1) A sister Mary Elizabeth who married 1) Austin, 2) Nassau
   2) A brother named Charles who married 1) Ann Maria

AMBLY: I have a question about Charles and Anna Maria Chamberlain. I have Anna Maria CHAMBERLAIN nee HART her father as Peter Hart (the same Peter HART that her mother married after her father's death. So Charles's mother remarried to his spouse's father?
I can't seem to find Peter's first marriage, the one that produced Anna Maria. I have her birth date as 1831 and death date as 14 July 1860 in Brightlingsea Essex. I also believe Peter had a brother James Hart b. 1803.

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Essex / Re: Bloomin' family did a disappearing act!!!! New eyes needed!
« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 00:45 BST (UK)  »
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I came across your post with great interest.  Rochford Augustus Nassau was my great great grandfather.
I will need to check against my research at home but here is what I know:

Mary Elizabeth married John Augustus Nassau.  At that time her name was Austin nee Chamberlin - I'm pretty sure I have the marriage certificate - which suggests she was widowed twice.  John was indeed decended from the Earls of Rochford.

Their son was Rochford Augustus Nassau who married Jessie Warren.  They had several children, two of whom died at a very early age - Nellie Thirza and Lotta May.  It's interesting that the name was taken through onto this side of the family.

I also came across with great interest! Mary Elizabeth is my GGGrandfather's (Percy Edward Austin Chamberlain) aunt and was named after Mary's first husband Edward Austin. Until now we knew very little about her and these marraiges. I would be interested to know how large a  posterity came through from the Nassau side.

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Essex / Re: Essex Chamberlains - need answers!
« on: Tuesday 31 May 11 23:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Ambly, for all of this great information. We are familiar with Percy's immigration to the US and some of the details surrounding it. Apparently his wife Ellen had tuberculosis and died not long after arriving. Even sadder still, the infant Robert died his first night in Salt Lake City. As his descendants many of us are still in Salt Lake City.

Most notably to clear up the Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain marriage situation and find the source of all of our "Edward Austins" (A name our family still uses today!) Must've been a good guy. And to finally put Thirza in the right family (your hunch was right - she had been wrongly indentified as a daughter of William and Mary).

How would one go about obtaining/purchasing copies of birth certificates for Percy Edward Austin Chamberlain and related marriage certificates. I would love to see his as well as Mary Elizabeth's.

On our next visit to England I would love to take a pilgrimage to Essex. I wonder, how would we go about finding any surviving Chamberlains? We'd probably have to go back to William and Mary Chamberlain's line to find any.

Thanks again!

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Essex / Re: Essex Chamberlains - need answers!
« on: Monday 30 May 11 17:35 BST (UK)  »
Also, user madraykin has an Edward Austin marrying a Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain in 1837. That would certainly prove a connection but just adds more confusion regarding her birth location and marriage(s). Does anyone have a birth or marraige certificate for Mary Elizabeth?

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Essex / Re: Essex Chamberlains - need answers!
« on: Monday 30 May 11 17:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the information.

As for Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain, I'm wondering if these are two different people or there are some incorrect records out there. I have a Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain born in 1818 in Great Bentley, Essex, and the other was born in Virginia? But oddly they have the same marriage and death date (1895). Perhaps she was born in England and emigrated at a later date?

I'm still very curious about the Edward Austin connection to the Chamberlain family (and didn't know Percy's given name was Fleck - odder still!). The Edward Austin name features very prominently in the Chamberlain line but I don't know if that connection was through marriage or just a family friend. There was an Edward Austin born a few miles away in Witham, Essex in 1821 that would put him at about 34 years old at the time of Percy's birth.

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Essex / Essex Chamberlains - need answers!
« on: Monday 30 May 11 05:29 BST (UK)  »
Hello everyone - I'm new here and was wondering if someone could help me figure out a family mystery.
My GGGrandfather was Percy Edward Austin Chamberlain  (1856-1925) of Great Bentley. We always thought in unusual that he had two middle names and knew there was an Edward Austin related (an uncle possibly?) to the family. According to family lore, Percy's father George Chamberlain  (1827-1860) had died rather young and Percy had possibly gone to live the the Austin family.
There was a discussion here dating back a few years (posted by user Madraykin - we are a distant relation but I can't yet send her a msg!) that Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain  (1818-1895) (Percy's aunt) had married an Edward Austin, but I can't find anything to support that. In fact, our records show that Mary Elizabeth Chamberlain had married a Lewis Fieulleteau Wilson  (1804-1873). Or perhaps we're not talking about the same Mary Elizabeth? Anyway, I'm just trying to figure out the Austin/Chamberlain family connection.

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