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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating an old Victorian photo please?
« on: Saturday 28 May 11 20:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the dating. The photo and scan isn't mine, it was sent to me in this manner, sorry if it's not ideal to date. We know who the gentleman is because we have other photos of him with the names written on the back but this one doesn't. He was born in 1807 if it helps.Thanks for your comments.
Judith.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Dating an old Victorian photo please?
« on: Saturday 28 May 11 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Thanks to everyone who helped with my last post, we managed to identify everyone in the photo based on the date given, many thanks! I do have one more if people don't mind? This ancestor had three wives and I'd like to learn which one this is. Can anyone help date it? Many thanks.
Judith.

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Ireland / Re: Please help with lost Irish relatives
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 13:51 BST (UK)  »
No I didn't, thanks very much for the details! No idea how to research Scotland's records. My son is quite good at English ones and showed me the Irish census website. I've got him researching his dad's family history so I can do a bit of mine myself. I bought a transcript of the marriage from a family history website, it gave the same date Jan 2nd 1883 at Glendermott, County Derry. Mary was described as being from Glendermott Rectory and her husband from Waterside. Thanks for the extra information, does the Scotland's People give an occupation for Robert? I'm curious why they appear in Glasgow before returning to Ireland. Thanks for your help, much appreciated.
Judith.

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Ireland / Re: Please help with lost Irish relatives
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 13:23 BST (UK)  »
All this sounds right, Mary Speers father was called Benjamin Workman so the son being Robert Workman Speers would fit. I had a look on the 1911 Irish census and failed to find any of them which is why I'm feeling a bit stuck. Thanks for the help and the children's dates of registration. I think they must have emigrated as a family.
Judith.

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Ireland / Re: Please help with lost Irish relatives
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 09:43 BST (UK)  »
Robert was a writing clerk when he got married and a 'shirt factory manager' in 1901, I don't know about mining. Is it possible he had a total change in career? Thanks for looking. Robert was Donegal, Mary lived in Tyrone, Londonderry and Armagh so could put either, the rest of her family did.
Judith.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please?
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 09:14 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jim I've going to try that. Don't know where to start with emigration. My son has inputted the information on to his ancestry tree but no joy there either, we were hoping for a quick fix from an ancestry hint. Can I say thanks to all the people who have helped me with this, your advice is much appreciated. Thank you.
Judith.

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Ireland / Please help with lost Irish relatives
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 09:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I'm trying to trace an Irish family who are present on the 1901 Irish census but have vanished by 1911. They are Robert (42) and Mary Speers (40) of 4 Clarendon Street, Londonderry with children John (17), Robert (15), Caroline (12) and David Benjamin (10). (However, the ages of the parents may be incorrectly entered on the census by as much as 8 years). I can't find the family after this but when Robert and Mary's neice marries in Haverton Hill, Durham, England in 1904 a Caroline Speers has signed the witness box on the marriage certificate which may well be her as I can find no evidence of another Caroline Speers in the area. If this is her, they disappear completely after this. I've had my son put their information into his ancestry account but no joy there either. Is there anyone who can help us find them? It has been suggested to me they might have emigrated but I don't know where to start to find out about that. Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
Judith

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please?
« on: Saturday 21 May 11 23:09 BST (UK)  »
No the entire family is absent from the Irish 1911 census children and all, they don't seem to be on the English 1911 either. If the Caroline Speers who signs the marriage certificate in England in 1904 is the same one as the possible cousin in Ireland then this is the last sign of them. Either I can't find them or they have gone somewhere else. I bought the marriage record for another of the sisters and one I know to be definite and this also gives the same different occupation as the one I bought for these so it removes that niggle. Thanks for your help everyone. I will have to think about this some more.
Judith.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please?
« on: Saturday 21 May 11 22:05 BST (UK)  »
IGI has the Moneymore baptisms where she was born, I have her born 1852, daughter of Benjamin Workman, a carpenter. On the census she is aged 40 so born around 1861 (so nine years not 8), the marriage cert gives her father as Benjamin Workman, farmer and her husband Robert's father as David. The family on census have a David and I found a baptism for him as David Benjamin Speers suggesting that the census family are definitely the ones from the marriage certificate, it's just whether there was another Mary Workman daughter of Benjamin kicking around the area. I'm not sure and yet their address at 4 Clarence Street is round the corner from Ship Quay Place and them having a daughter called Caroline when a Caroline Speers witnessed my 3Xgreat gran's daughter's wedding seems a bit of a coincidence, the photo actually belonged to the daughter whose wedding Caroline Speers witnessed also and as I said I can find no evidence in England of this Caroline Speers. I find this family history research very difficult!
Judith .

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