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Devon / Re: Plymouth? 1956 - Where was this taken?
« on: Friday 13 February 26 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Perfect. All the relevant details are visible in this to confirm the match.
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Devon / Re: Plymouth? 1956 - Where was this taken?
« on: Friday 13 February 26 21:08 GMT (UK) »
I think we have it! Mum's photo would have been taken from the beach below The Malakov, and we have another picture taken from near there, and looking toward the place where this one was taken.
That small building on the beach and the covered seats match up. As do the terraces.
Interestingly, following on from another reply, there is a train line just above the beach, but this image doesn't show that - too blurry.
Many thanks to all who took the time to think about this.
Cheers
Bill
That small building on the beach and the covered seats match up. As do the terraces.
Interestingly, following on from another reply, there is a train line just above the beach, but this image doesn't show that - too blurry.
Many thanks to all who took the time to think about this.
Cheers
Bill
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Devon / Re: Plymouth? 1956 - Where was this taken?
« on: Friday 13 February 26 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again. Still not convinced with the Goodrington hypothesis, I'd have to say. But can't definitively exclude it yet.
The photo is blurry, I agree - I think mum suffered from shaking the camera when she pressed the shutter, as there are a few quite sharp images, so the camera was OK.
My problem with the suggested image is the lack of terraced houses. In mum's photo there is one clear long terrace above the beach that seems to be running parallel to the beach. With another further up the cliff/slope. From Google, the few terraces (remaining?) at Goodrington all seem to run perpendicular to the beach.
Agree that the low structure is likely covered seating. Looking further, I found an image with covered seating at Goodrington. Had a different roof (but they can change). But I can't see where that is or was.
Can't find any image with anything that could be the two storey building right on the beach just to the left of the two figures.
Might have another try at sharpening and adjusting the contrast. See if I can bring out any further details this time.
As always, many thanks for the time taken.
B
The photo is blurry, I agree - I think mum suffered from shaking the camera when she pressed the shutter, as there are a few quite sharp images, so the camera was OK.
My problem with the suggested image is the lack of terraced houses. In mum's photo there is one clear long terrace above the beach that seems to be running parallel to the beach. With another further up the cliff/slope. From Google, the few terraces (remaining?) at Goodrington all seem to run perpendicular to the beach.
Agree that the low structure is likely covered seating. Looking further, I found an image with covered seating at Goodrington. Had a different roof (but they can change). But I can't see where that is or was.
Can't find any image with anything that could be the two storey building right on the beach just to the left of the two figures.
Might have another try at sharpening and adjusting the contrast. See if I can bring out any further details this time.
As always, many thanks for the time taken.
B
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Devon / Re: Plymouth? 1956 - Where was this taken?
« on: Friday 13 February 26 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestion, it would certainly add to our knowledge of how they got to Cornwall from London, but I don't think it can be. Photos of Goodrington from the 1930's and 1950's all seem to have beach huts at the back of the beach, but there are none in mum's photo. Probably counts this out?
Cheers
Bill
Cheers
Bill
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Devon / Plymouth? 1956 - Where was this taken?
« on: Thursday 12 February 26 22:14 GMT (UK) »
The attached photo was taken by my mother when she was in the UK in 1956.
On the back she has written "Plymouth - sea front".
Given the people, and dog, on the left, this image includes a large patch of sand. Can this be Plymouth? If so, any ideas where it might be (or have been) in Plymouth?
If not Plymouth, it will likely be in Devon or Cornwall, photos from this roll of film include Plymouth, St Ives and Land's End.
Thanks in advance for any help.
On the back she has written "Plymouth - sea front".
Given the people, and dog, on the left, this image includes a large patch of sand. Can this be Plymouth? If so, any ideas where it might be (or have been) in Plymouth?
If not Plymouth, it will likely be in Devon or Cornwall, photos from this roll of film include Plymouth, St Ives and Land's End.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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The Common Room / Re: Advice requested - Julian Calendar.
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 00:47 BST (UK) »
For advice, I tend to use calculators created for astronomy, specifically a good Julian Date calculator, for example:
https://apps.aavso.org/v2/tools/julian-date-converter/
These convert to an odd number of days (specifically, the number since 1 Jan 4713 BC, don't ask).
For your example, the difference is 62 days, as expected.
However, for the period when much of Europe had a different calendar to England, you still might need to be careful.
And this ignores all the other perfectly valid calendars used around the world and through time.
https://apps.aavso.org/v2/tools/julian-date-converter/
These convert to an odd number of days (specifically, the number since 1 Jan 4713 BC, don't ask).
For your example, the difference is 62 days, as expected.
However, for the period when much of Europe had a different calendar to England, you still might need to be careful.
And this ignores all the other perfectly valid calendars used around the world and through time.
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The Common Room / Re: Advice requested - Julian Calendar.
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 00:33 BST (UK) »
Not a muppet, at least, you're not the muppet.
I suspect that nobody told the programmer for the calculator that the change of year hasn't always been 31 Dec-1 Jan. Or, possibly, they weren't told exactly when that wasn't the case.
The value you got, 427, is exactly 365 more than you expected. That is, the new year didn't occur, for the calculator, until after Dec 1629.
Find a new calculator, is my advice. (Or remember this and subtract, or add, 365 when needed. But that's a pain.)
I suspect that nobody told the programmer for the calculator that the change of year hasn't always been 31 Dec-1 Jan. Or, possibly, they weren't told exactly when that wasn't the case.
The value you got, 427, is exactly 365 more than you expected. That is, the new year didn't occur, for the calculator, until after Dec 1629.
Find a new calculator, is my advice. (Or remember this and subtract, or add, 365 when needed. But that's a pain.)
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Streets of St Fagans - Harding
« on: Sunday 19 October 25 22:26 BST (UK) »
From this discussion, it is reasonably clear that the Rose Cottage of relevance to me is the one on the map above, on the road parallel to the river heading up the hill to the castle and church, the road now called Castle Hill.
However, I did a google search for 'Rose Cottage St Fagans' and discovered that there is a grade II listed building in St Fagans called "Rose Cottage"! That one is north of the castle and church, on Crofft-y-Genau Road! Sadly, nobody seems to have written a history of that listed cottage.
So, for later searchers looking for Rose Cottage in St Fagans, be careful about which Rose Cottage you are after.
However, I did a google search for 'Rose Cottage St Fagans' and discovered that there is a grade II listed building in St Fagans called "Rose Cottage"! That one is north of the castle and church, on Crofft-y-Genau Road! Sadly, nobody seems to have written a history of that listed cottage.
So, for later searchers looking for Rose Cottage in St Fagans, be careful about which Rose Cottage you are after.
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Streets of St Fagans - Harding
« on: Monday 13 October 25 20:35 BST (UK) »
Clearly a family that should be avoided. 
Had a quick search for the other side of the family and found that Herbert Mordecai was charged with 'depasturing scabby sheep' in St Mary Hill. Sounds nasty, whatever it is.
Had a quick search for the other side of the family and found that Herbert Mordecai was charged with 'depasturing scabby sheep' in St Mary Hill. Sounds nasty, whatever it is.