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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Monday 26 December 11 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rich,
Yes he was a soldier of the 58th Rutlandshire Regiment of Foot, and fought
in the Land Wars of NZ.
Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Monday 05 December 11 18:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rich,
Most definitely buy a death 'print out'. 
That way you a sure of receiving exactly what was written at the time.  As we all know, certificates often have many errors, due to human 'typo's' or wrong translations. 
Best wishes in your research,
Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Thursday 01 December 11 19:32 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, the 'William Jardine' went to Hobart before arrival at Sydney. 

Also - the death register for Ellen McIlroy is dated 1870, (no date or month)
in the NZ -BDM.

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Thursday 01 December 11 00:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rich,
Your ancestor is listed in Discharged in NZ, by the Hughes.
It states he was a blacksmith, born at MULLABRACH, (I would think that to be
in Ireland).  He joined the 58th Reg. 26. o5. 1838.  He left London on the
'William Jardine', a convict ship, where he would have been a guard, 01.07.1844.  He was then on the 'HMS North Star Velocity' to Auckland, NZ. 1845.

The death of Bartholomew McIlroy is registered at BDM Internal Affairs NZ, as 1869.  I didn't find a marriage record.  There are 2 children born between 1845 and 1865 which may have been his, but parents not listed.  They are
Rose Ann, born at Auckland 1855:  and David Thomas Christie, born 1865.

Hoping this is some help in your search.  Every best wish, Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Monday 12 September 11 07:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bernice,
I'm adding this extra infor on Owen that is gleaned from "Discharged in New Zealand".
He left Britain from Debtford, on 'HMS Anson' (as a guard on that convict ship)
07 Sept. 1843.  Arrived Hobart Town 04 Feb. 1844.

20 Sept. 1845 left Sydney on the 'British Sovereign', and arrived at the Bay of Islands, NZ, 09 Oct. 1845 to participate in the War against northern Maori.

Many of the regiment left NZ for Syney Aus in December 1846.  Except for a detachment which stayed at Wellington.  They returned from Australia to Auckland nine months later, and remained at various 'militia districts' for the next 11 years, until the Regiment disbanded in November 1858, when most stayed in NZ and Australia.

Cheers,
Bev 

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Monday 12 September 11 05:57 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much for that Bernice, but I have to apologise -as the Army # I sent you for Owen Commons was wrong.  You were right with # 1832.  I have just collected new reading glasses and can see properly once again.

Sorry!!
Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Sunday 11 September 11 21:00 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Bernice,
There is a book published by the NZ Genealogical Society, written by Lyn and Hugh Hughes, namely 'Discharged in New Zealand'.  It has lists of all the Rank and file of all Regiments involved in the formation and security of early NZ. 
No Officers are listed in this book.
Owen COMMONS -Pvt. 1632 - from Tipperary was a labourer when he joined the 58th Rutlandshire Regiment of Foot 09 July 1842.  He took his discharge in NZ -31 May 1853. 
There is only one Owen Commons listed with the 58th in their book.
Cheers,
Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Sunday 11 September 11 01:16 BST (UK)  »
More to the last message I sent - Anne is still listed as Cummins at time of death - Anne CUMMINS death 01 July 1898, aged 65 years.  Quite strange that they spelt Owen's death as COMMONS !! Bev

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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Sunday 11 September 11 00:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bernice,

I found Anne CAVANAGH married Owen CUMMINS on 28 February, 1858.  I am sure this is the couple you are looking for, as there were many spelling errors made in early days of registration.

A Mary COMMONS died 1840, as registered in NZ.

All the best,
Bev

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