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Wicklow / Re: Thomas Rourke (O'Rourke) from Wicklow
« on: Thursday 20 February 25 20:19 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: StiofanÓ on Friday 01 November 24 05:14 GMT (UK)
I know this conversation is a more than a decade old, but I would love to hear from any contributor who has more information about the ancestors of Thomas and Mary.  I would be happy to receive a PM, if you wish to reach out.

Hi, sent you a PM regarding Rourke/Byrne. I have done a tree for a descendant of Thomas and Mary some years ago.Its the same family as mentioned by Etobin bar they have the incorrect wife for Paddy Rourke.

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Ireland / Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« on: Tuesday 18 February 25 22:03 GMT (UK)  »
Possibility (for the Dublin born James Hawkins on 1860 US census) worth looking at is the one baptised 26th January 1838 in the Pro Cathedral, Dublin.

In the same time frame;
James Hawkins baptised Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford 20th April 1838 to George Hawkins and Mary Sheil
James Hawkins baptised Pro Cathedral, Dublin 27th May 1836 to John and Sarah Hawkins.

All the above are RC baptismal entry's

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Thursday 23 January 25 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
Found a Thomas Byrne an annuiant dying in Dublin 1915 as reported by his widow Elizabeth. Correct age for Thomas byrne  born 1864 in Wexford.
Its a long shot  and will post link later but i think he is a possible son of Mathew Byrne.

Looking at what is found so far it looks likely that there is only a small possibility of any descendants as most of Mathew's children died unmarried or in infancy.

Have found a few possible baptisms in the Borris Parish register for Mathew Byrne born c.1835 but the two best ones have no address which would be a major help.

He supposedly came from a family of blacksmiths,went to Wexford to serve his time in Pierces and ended up in Dublin.

The lack of descendants would make a DNA connection harder whilst i cannot for definite connect this Mathew Byrne with the earliest known ancestor of the person searching for the link so kinda snookered so far on both ends.



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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Thursday 23 January 25 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Sinann on Wednesday 22 January 25 19:35 GMT (UK)
Did you have a Matthew married to an Emily
Irish Independent
Death notice for Emily O’Byrne died Jan 26 1952 widow of Matthew O’Byrne late of Bell Foundry, James St.
Her address 54 Northumberland Road.
Buried Glasnevin.

Don't seem to see that death on civil records site.

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Thursday 23 January 25 20:50 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Sinann on Thursday 23 January 25 01:08 GMT (UK)
Had a look at Bella Vista on the map, it was a fairly big house.
The Matthew in Templeogue in 1901 and 1911 is living in a 1st class, 14 room house. He also owned several other properties of his neighbours. (House and Building Returns)

It doesn’t look like he filled in both forms himself, the hand writing is quite different, I think the 1911 one is the enumerators writing which may explain why he is listed as single.
Of course the ages on the census don’t come close to the age of 81on the death certificate but given the size of the house and other properties it must be the same man.
His estate was worth over £5000.
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00688.pdf

Matthew W is his son, who must have gone into the family business at some point and there is a sister Mary going by the letter in the newspaper.
Which leaves Frank F, where did he go?

Does that sound correct?

The property in Templeogue would be worth looking at. See next reply.

Francis Byrne dies 27th February 1919 Malahide Road ,Clontarf, aged 57 and unmarried as reported by his brother Matthew Byrne of 42 James Street, Dublin.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05162/4423541.pdf

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Wednesday 22 January 25 22:55 GMT (UK)  »
Was sent an article tonight which is from Carlow Nationalist 27th March 1915 saying Matthew Byrne a native of Ballymurphy and now a bell maker in Dublin presented a bell to his home Parish church.It states he is elderly and was represented by his son at the ceremony.

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Wednesday 22 January 25 19:41 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Sinann on Wednesday 22 January 25 19:35 GMT (UK)
Did you have a Matthew married to an Emily
Irish Independent
Death notice for Emily O’Byrne died Jan 26 1952 widow of Matthew O’Byrne late of Bell Foundry, James St.
Her address 54 Northumberland Road.
Buried Glasnevin.

Thanks.
Thats the Emily O Conor who was married to the Matthew Byrne on 1901 census living in Donnybrook and in Antrim in 1911 I think.
As far as i can find they married in Liverpool c.1897. One son Leo who died 1914 ( WW1 i assume)

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Wednesday 22 January 25 17:47 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Sinann on Wednesday 22 January 25 17:39 GMT (UK)
When the Dominican Church Newbridge got it's new bell from the Fountain Head Bell Foundry in 1889 the foundry was represented by Mr M Byrne and his son Mr Frank F Byrne. Nationalist and Lenister Times July 1889.
Frank's name might prove useful.

Thanks for that.

I half remember a Francis Furlong Byrne being mentioned in an online tree as a son of Matthew Byrne.
Looking through it all when its written down I think I have either 2 or 3 separate Byrne families.

Family 1; Matthew Byrne and his wife Elizabeth Furlong (?).He is the Bell maker in James Street Dublin with son Matthew William Byrne ,a Royal Navy engineer.


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03410/2250712.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_East___Donnybrook/New_Grove_Avenue/1285513/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Westland_Road/147354/

The 1925 death for Matthew Byrne engineer gives James Street as address so likely the above more than the below Matthew Byrne

Family 2; Matthew Byrne born Carlow c. 1870. Again an bell founder(?) living in Templeogue in 1901 and 1911 census an engineer .Wonder perhaps a relative of the Matthew Byrne owning the Fountain Head Bell Foundry ?

Confusion perhaps as the 81 year old foundry owner Matthew Byrne dying in 1916 is also living in Templeogue, Dublin .Address given as Bella Vista Templeogue on death entry.


Family 3 ?
Matthew Byrne and Elizabeth Furlong. Marrying Ferns ,Wexford  November 1859. SonThomas born The Faythe (I think) Wexford 1864 with occupation millwright.Another son Christopher born James Street Dublin 1874.

Any opinions ? They all seem somewhat intertwined but something not clicking for me.

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Ireland / Re: Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin
« on: Wednesday 22 January 25 17:24 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at it all written down now I think people were mixing up the two Matthew Byrne/OByrne.

Found the Matthew Byrne Bell maker on 1901 census in Dublin.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_East___Donnybrook/New_Grove_Avenue/1285513/


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