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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marr Licence 1626
« on: Friday 23 October 15 18:22 BST (UK)  »
Right. A bit different than I was used to. In Dutch 18th cent. marriage settlements there was usually a clause that a sum had to be paid in case one party changed his/her mind. The guarantors for intended bride and groom both signed. Wealthy Jewish families, and I suppose the marriages were arranged.
As far as I know in the Dutch Provinces there was nothing  comparable to a marriage Licence. Registration of the intent to marry in Dutch Reformed Church, people of other religions in townhall or courthouse, followed by three proclamations. Comparable to Banns in English etc.  churches.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marr Licence 1626
« on: Friday 23 October 15 01:29 BST (UK)  »
Just one more thing. A bond, is that a marriage contract that has been drawn up, or is it just the financial matter, if one of the parties decides against the marriage he/she has to pay an agreed sum?
And in this case, would James Ellison be the guarantor?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marr Licence 1626
« on: Friday 23 October 15 01:18 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!
I've got a few more, and they are all the same.
I've done a paleography course (Dutch) some time ago, and I find that it's the abbreviations in languages that aren't not your own, that make it so difficult.

Loes

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Marr Licence 1626
« on: Tuesday 20 October 15 13:57 BST (UK)  »
Marriage licence dated 13 Jan 1625 (old style calendar) between Johannis Valentine and Margareta Sleighe. I recognize Eccles, but the rest? I think I read banns, but it's a licence.
Help transcribing please?
It would be great if it says anything about Margt's origin.

Background:
Marriage in April 1626 John Vallentyne gent and Margrett Sligh in St Mary, Eccles, Lancs.
John (of Bentcliffe Hall) was baptized 1611, in Eccles, Margaret probably 1813 in Hartington, Derbyshire, daughter of a yeoman. Looks like they were kept apart for a while, baptisms of children from 1634 onwards. After that every year/two years.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marr Licence 1695
« on: Monday 19 October 15 19:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much. It's like poetry :-)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Marr Licence 1695
« on: Monday 19 October 15 12:39 BST (UK)  »
Michael Holt and Ann Valentine married 17 Jan 1695 in Manchester (now Cathedral). The record states they were both from Eccles. The marriage licence of the 16th, tells us that Michael came from Swinton in the parish of Eccles.

Can someone tell me what is written, at the end, between "Annam Valentine de" and "et jurante dicti Michaelis" ?

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England / Re: Ben Elton, William John Bennett, gymnasts
« on: Thursday 02 October 14 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Bill, I have tried to send an email, but it bounced. I will send it again as a Rootschat Personal Message.

Loes


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: St Wilrid's Hulme, baptisms
« on: Wednesday 10 April 13 00:10 BST (UK)  »
The Manchester Archives have the church marriages, including RC, of S Manchester on microfilm. Not sure if they are complete. There is an ordering service for prints, but then you need to know the church and exact date. And for those you need the marriage certificate.
Bucklow, probably something like that, but I don't know where. Maybe Chester?

Why don't you just order the marriage certificates?  When you live outside the UK, to order them from Manchester is far quicker than from the GRO (it was still like that last year).
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/323/birth-historical_searches/1144/registration-copy_certificates/4

Bucklow certificates maybe in Trafford, but you can email them
http://www.trafford.gov.uk/communityandliving/registrars/copycertificates/

And of course you can order all of them from the GRO. Easier, but delivery can be slow.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Loes

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: St Wilrid's Hulme, baptisms
« on: Monday 08 April 13 23:24 BST (UK)  »
I have seen quite  a lot of RC baptisms without a godfather, in one family in my tree I see that godfathers only appear when the child had brothers that were old enough or brothers-in law (yes, a large family, 20 children!). Those were baptisms in both Liverpool and Hulme.
I also have one with no godfather or godmother at all (a baptism at home).
And yes, several times the grandmother was godmother (again, no godfather).

Loes

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