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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Wednesday 29 June 11 13:05 BST (UK)  »
Found this website.
http://vermontcivilwar.org/state/obits.php?input=9141
The key imformation is:

John Austin of Glasgow, Scotland, invented the tulip-shaped bell for which he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth and took the name of Bell. James, a son, came to America, and a descendant of his, another James Bell, the grandfather of the subject of this sketch, came to Hardwick from Lyme, N.H., not far from 1800. Three or four years later he moved to Walden and in 1810 he settled on the farm known as The Belfry, where his grandson was born.

Now if this is correct then John Austin, later John Bell only became a Bell under Queen Elizabeth. Sir Robert Bells family and the John Bell of Londerry can be traced as Bells for at least four generations PRIOR to Queen Elizabeths reign. So either theres no relationship OR the John Austin/Bell line and John Bell of Londerry line inter married. Which of course is highly possible.

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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Tuesday 28 June 11 16:59 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately I dont have any imformation on those bells. BUT...if your family tradition is correct the idea that they are descended thru John Bell of Londerry is unlikely. John Bell is the brother of Matthew Bell who can be traced to Kirconnel, Scotland as a Bell. These bells traveled to Ireland waiting for land grants to open in America. The Bell DNA project then links this Matthew Bell with Sir Robert Bell Eschecuer under Queen Elizabeth. This Sir Robert can be traced to a common ancestor with Matthew Bell (brother of John) at most four generations earlier around 1425. So unless John Austin of Scotland was born even earlier than this its unlikely they are related. Further Sir Roberts Coat of Arms is Church bells not tulip shaped bells so again unlikely.

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Northumberland / jwinon : Matthew Bell/Woolsington Hall
« on: Monday 09 May 11 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Jwinon you state you have traced the bells for 23 generations back to Edward III. Do you have that written somewhere I can see, or can you email them to me? Im VERY intersted Thank you in advance!
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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Tuesday 03 May 11 18:38 BST (UK)  »
Im brand new to this site and hoping this is where to ask. What are the coat of arms of the Bells of Woolsington? On ancestry.com one person has TWO Coats of arms shown. The second is listed as both a crest and a coat of arms and is Sable fess ermine between three silver bells. IS this their arms? Its also the arms of Sir Robert Bell d. 1577 in Beupore England, Speaker of the House of Commons who no one knows who he descends from.
Thank you in advance!

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