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He was a grenadier guard in ww1 (reg no 15650)
Danielle

So, do you have his Great War service record? As I understand it, the records of the Guard regiments were separate from those of regular regiments, and have therefore all survived.

Junior officers suffered the highest army casualty rate during WWI. I believe I once read that regular soldiers of the Grenadier Guards were favored as replacements.

The birth certificate seems to indicate he was illegitimate. Are any illegitimate children listed around that period in the parish register? Another possibility that he was older than the birth registration indicates but I suspect you've already checked for earlier entries/

Yes, he was illegitimate, hence no father's namein the civil  registration, and why I am interested in finding a baptismal record.  And yes, I did check back for an earlier baptismal entry - none obvious.

One reason I posted this query was because it may be of some interest as the reverse of the usual case, i.e. where a baptism exists, but not the civil registration.

As for your other question, regarding whether other illegitimate children appear in the baptismal register, it is 18 months since I looked, and I am afraid I don't recall. And as Moses is a very distant DNA match, I lack the motivation to go back and recheck!

Yes I do have John's birth 1834 October reg recorded 1835  Dungarvan.  Yes that is where they were.

Essnell

John Kelly was baptized 5-10-1834. I see no basis for saying "recorded 1835".

He was the third son of the name John born to the couple.

I see 8 children baptized to this couple, all in the parish of Gowran, Co. Kilkenny.
To avoid confusion, their address - Dungarvan - is not Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, but Dungarvan, Co. Kilkenny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungarvan,_County_Kilkenny