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Armed Forces / Re: John Bridges, Military Service Records
« on: Monday 14 December 15 23:26 GMT (UK)  »
John Bridges retired from Royal Newfoundland Company military service on April 30, 1855. I read the old original record wrong (it was not 1852).

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Armed Forces / Re: John Bridges, Military Service Records
« on: Friday 11 December 15 00:58 GMT (UK)  »
What JBs record of 'retiring' from 23 years military service in 1852 followed by first child born in 1853 suggests is that he left to marry Mary Nealey. Not for sure, but dates are logical. It narrows our place and time for marriage, and we now know not to look for a 'military marriage record'. Our research in P.E.I. also found how their 'law and order' had broken down at about that time, and so had their funding from England. They formed a quasi-official militia, and it looks as if JB went there for a job. Second child (wife's grandmother) was born in the Charlottetown barracks in 1855.
Cheers,
 Dave K

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Armed Forces / Re: John Bridges, Military Service Records
« on: Friday 11 December 15 00:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you ShawnJ et al. for your very quick response. I renewed my subscription to findmypast and followed through your reference listing. It matched our private correspondence without compromise. It allows to build further on my wife's ancestry. 
Cheers,
Dave K

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Armed Forces / John Bridges, Military Service Records
« on: Thursday 10 December 15 19:15 GMT (UK)  »
John Bridges (b. 1812, Greenwich, Co. Kent, England; d. after 1871, Kingsport, Nova Scotia, Canada) was career British military. We have a letter written by one of his daughters: "Father was stationed in Scotland, Ireland, Wales and for nine years in Upper Canada before going to Newfoundland". His final posting was Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada. All of these postings were before Canada became "Canada", so I am uncertain what to look for. He is listed in the 1871 Nova Scotia Census as "pensioner", living with his wife and two daughters. He had a son born in Newfoundland in 1853, the above daughter born in "Charlottetown Barracks" on 08 Sept 1855, and a daughter in Kingsport, N.S. on 19 Nov. 1862. His wife was Mary Nealey (b. 1816, Dingle, Co. Kerry, Ireland), but even in this daughter's letter just refers to "Mother".
John Bridges had older siblings in England, one being Justine Elizabeth Bridges, who married but had no children.
Where might I look next for family records? We have visited the Provincial Archives in Charlottetown, P.E.I., and found an index cards that confirms the birth their of a daughter, Jane Bridges, but added no other information. Military records suggested that various contingents were kept on the move every month or so......I did not know they were so mobile back then.....keeping the various civilian groups in check.
We have much family history, but very little is from government records.

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Ayrshire / James Kennedy (1807-1890) & Culzean Castle birthplace
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 21:37 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for direction of any records that could identify this James Kennedy and his six sisters. I understand there were several Kennedy "castles", some more humble piles of stones. Uncle Fred's account may relate to Big James birth in one other than Culzean! I received this note when Uncle Fred visited my Dad in the 1980's in Canada. I have most of our Kennedy family records from Ireland.

From handwritten note of Frederic Walter Kennedy (1899 to ?), original with photocopy of Culzean Castle:
"This is the Castle where my Grandfather was born, after Grandmother died he lived with my Father John & Mother Elizabeth: this is the story he told Mother. Big James, Grandpa, had six sisters all older than he was, they abused him continually as he was heir to the estates; at 14 fourteen years he ran away from home and went to Northern Ireland near Ballymena.  (sic) at age twenty one he returned to his parents home Culzean Castle to claim his estates. Three brothers-in-law met him, the three other brother-in-laws had met sudden deaths, the last one, one week previously, was found with a knife in his back in the sands of Ayr.(sic) asked him if he would like the same treatment he said No. Told to get out and never return. He got out and never returned. He married Mary Kyle a very tall red haired girl. Big James was 6'2", they were a very distinguished couple. They had three sons Hugh, John, my Dad and Andrew. Hugh died age 23 from some sickness unknown. My Dad lived 73 years passed on in 1926. Big James, Grandpa, died age 83, I do not know the year but guess it was 1900. Nine years before I was born. Later reading the History of the Kennedy Clan I find mention of the six sisters.  It stated one was left in near poverty at the sudden death of her husband. One of the sisters...
I still try to research the records of the Kennedys, but in the take over of the estates by the usurpers the history seems to fade away.
The Kennedy Clan was one of, if not the most powerful of all the Clans until after the 1800 era. The book I have all testify to these facts...
Sir James Ferguson, the Kennedy historian..
Kennedy (the son of Kenneth) sometimes written Kennedis around the years 1005, 1004....became prominent in the year 1263 when they fought for Alexander III at the Battle of Largs but the Kennedys were prominent in 1243. At one time all the males of the Kennedys were killed in battle except two men. The Gaelic pronunciation of Kennedy was Caenaideach. Ken a day ugh.
Frederic Walter Kennedy 1899 to ?
(Note other research indicates "Big james" Kennedy was born in 1807 and died in 1890).

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Ireland / Re: Pheniy family in Hillsborough, Co Down in 1892
« on: Tuesday 15 October 13 20:20 BST (UK)  »
Aha....I found how to get back to this "conversation" and became aware that the clues to further information were in fact yours "aghadowey".

Thank you.

My other links are to the children of John Stuart and Maria (Kelly) Stuart, two born in Co. Down, and the last one, in 1871,  in Newtown Crommelin, Co. Antrim. For that child, it was reported that Maria gave the Newtown Crommelin area address of her mother as her residence upon the birth. The priority one objective of the search is to find a name for Maria's mother. The person posting that information, Henry Hume, has not been back to this site in over a year, but if his email link has not changed, he should have received my targeted message request.

The Isabella Kelly that was the other search objective was one of the two witnesses to John and Maria's wedding, hence the target linkage.


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Down / Re: Donaghadee lookups?
« on: Sunday 13 October 13 00:04 BST (UK)  »
You have been most helpful, Scotmum!

Of the two individuals, my first guess would be Mary Kelly. The 1892 1st quarter death date is appropriate to have elicited the remark by Isabella "I was sorry to hear of your dear loving Mother's death" in her March 29th, 1892 letter. Also Mary was repeated many times in the family name sequence. Not so with Sarah.

Thank you,
 David A. Kelly

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Ireland / Re: Pheniy family in Hillsborough, Co Down in 1892
« on: Saturday 12 October 13 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi again,
I guess my impatience is getting ahead of the work I am simultaneously paying a professional researcher to determine, which is to discover the first name and eventual passing of my great-great-great Grandmother, Mrs. David Kelly from Co. Down.

I know pretty much everything from my great-great Grandparents (Robert Kelly & Mary Jane Swann) on down. I visited his family gravesite in May, and spent time with my cousins in the area. My "newly discovered USA" cousin (September) provided me with a copy of a clearly written letter to her great-great Grandfather John & Mrs. (Martha) Kelly by an Isabella Pheni......, who addresses John as her "cousin".

There is sufficient detail in public documents to link Robert Kelly and John Kelly as sons of a David Kelly, and the same David Kelly. The Isabella whateverhernameis appears to be an older 1st cousin to Maria, Robert and John Kelly. Perhaps the Isabella Phoenix (1837-1896) who died in Lisburn is that person. We continue searching for "pieces" that could get back to their origins in County Down.

Sincerely,
David A. Kelly

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Down / Re: Donaghadee lookups?
« on: Saturday 12 October 13 23:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again, Scotmum.
Those two names and dates would fit with other documented information. I tried to access the reference online as Irish Civil Index, but must have made incorrect search parameters, because no Sarah Kelly was discoverable. I'll try again for Mary Kelly. Mary was a popular name for family descendants!

I am waiting for the next report from my contract researcher, and hope his previous thoroughness will cover these names and dates. The letter from Isabella to cousin John & Mrs. Kelly 29/3/92 said "sorry to hear of your dear loving Mother's death", so those two dates fit between the 1890 death of David Kelly, and the departure of John & Martha to the U.S.
Sincerely,
 David A. Kelly

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