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Forgive me for stating the obvious – that is, obvious to some, but perhaps not to others? I can still remember my own complete surprise when I found out that the Nellie/Nelly in my own family was actually an “Eleanor”. And of course, an “Eleanor” can also become an “Ellen”.

Something to bear in mind when searching for an elusive Nelly/Nellie?
This Topic mentions the name “Eleanor” twice:

Heywood:
1911 Census August F. with wife & children.
The daughter though is Eleanor….but marries elsewhere – not Nelly
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softly softly:
Fritz/Frederick Fries was registered with surname Frier in 1896. This was corrected in 1929 and re-registered as Frederick Fries. Also at the same time his sister Eleanor Maud was re-registered., both with mmn Harrison.
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Perhaps everyone except for me has always been aware of this, but just thought that I would point it out in case it somehow helps.

UKgirl

1820 Oct 30, George Killgour married Margaret Reddish at Manchester, St. Mary

Children of George Kilgour & Margaret:
Baptisms
1821 Apr 8, James, Hulme Christ Church – Richardson’s Buildings, Hulme
1822 Sep 1, Samuel (Kilgann), Manchester Cathedral (Manchester, Cotton Spinner)
1824 Sep 19, Mary Ann (Killgour), Manchester Cathedral (Manchester, Carder)
1828 Dec 25, Emma, Hulme St. George, (Hulme, Spinner) (late Reddish)
1831 Feb 13, John (Kilgow), Hulme Christ Church – Christ Church Square, Hulme
1834 Nov 2, Hannah, Manchester Cathedral (Hulme, Carter/Carder)
1837 Nov 26, Matilda, Manchester Cathedral, (Hulme, Spinner)
[also previously 1837 Feb 1, Metilda, Hulme Christ Church - 3, Christ Church Square, Hulme]
1839 Mar 31, Margaret, Manchester Cathedral (Hulme, Spinner)
[also previously 1839 Feb 17, Margaret (Kilgoure), Hulme Christ Church - Worcester Street, Hulme]

Hulme, Christ Church = non-conformist & non-parochial registers

Note: Baptisms at Christ Church, Hulme give place of birth (abode?)

UKgirl

Re. the Nanney Ridings marriage.

This too is on FreeREG.

It took place at the same church as the Ann Lees marriage:
St. Mary, Prestwich. This is not Oldham.

The witnesses are identical - and present at several of the marriages in that church (also for Joseph Hibbert married in 1820), so perhaps the witnesses' names cannot shed any light on family/friendship connections? They may just be church "staff"?

UKgirl

Gosh - born in 1909 and still alive!
At 115 years old (plus 253 days), a British woman has become the oldest person in the world.

1909 Ethel May Collins born in Shipton Bellinger (R.D. Andover)
1933 Ethel M Collins married Norman Caterham
1976 Norman Caterham died

And it is good to read that dear Ethel seems to have had an interesting life:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14666931/Ethel-Surrey-worlds-oldest-person-Brazil.html

UKgirl

Yes, that’s the book. I too was taken aback by the name Agnes.

It seems that she was born in 1556, her father died in 1581 and she married in 1582, therefore she was already an adult woman when she was named in her father’s will, and one can presume that a father would not make a mistake with his own daughter’s name.

Perhaps she just did not like the name "Agnes" and decided to call herself "Anne" from the time of her marriage? Or perhaps William did not like the name "Agnes"?

Although Anne/Agnes went on to have 3 children, in those days only the father’s name was given in the baptism records, so her name would not have appeared. Accordingly, there may be very few records with her actual name on; the Marriage License Bond, William’s Will and her own Burial Record? And in all those instances, it would not have been her who supplied her name.

I wonder if the “G” was silent in those days? Maggie O’Farrell seems to suggest that, when she wrote in the book (QUOTE): "Agnes. Said differently from how it might be written on the page, with that near-hidden, secret G. Ann-yis. Agn-yez."

It's a bit interesting, isn't it?

UKgirl