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Hanes Teulu, thank you for pointing that out.

I have just looked at the record again, just to double check. The baptisms took place on a Sunday, and there were 3 baptisms in the Catholic church on that day. And yes, there are 2 sponsors, one of whom I believe to be the sister of the mother. The male is unknown to me, but "seems" to have an Irish name.

Does it need a lot of planning to arrange a baptism with sponsors? Could it be a rush job: just grab your sister and some male you and your sister know? Or do you have to arrange it in advance?

I am surprised that it is on a Sunday - so morning worship & baptism in the CofE (presumably with the father's parents?) and afternoon/evening in the Catholic church (while the father was in the pub?)

The mind boggles!

UKgirl

Helpfully, the mother's maiden name was included.

Also, both parents' names were given in Latin. And of course, not everyone knows that the Latin version of William is Guilelmus. In cases where this is the father's name, such baptisms may remain unnoticed - hiding in plain sight, as it were. The first baptism in CofE would put you off the scent, especially when there is no family knowledge of a Catholic connection.

UKgirl

Distance from Farleigh Hungerford to Freshford = 2 miles

Researchers live all over the world, and rarely live in/near the village that they are researching. When a location comes up that a researcher has no local knowledge of, and they are trying to rule various individuals in or out, it may help to ascertain how far apart the various villages are.

If there are 2 candidates, and one is living just 4 miles away, and the other is living 40 miles away, it “may” help ascertain which is the correct individual.

This website helps to provide a picture of the neighbourhood. It is divided into counties, and then towns & villages.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/

You can usually find the name of a target village, and under the village page, there is a section called: “Gazeteers”.

Then it says (for example):
Gazetteers
•   Ask for a calculation of the distance from Farleigh Hungerford to another place.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/FarleighHungerford

Distances for some of the places mentioned in this thread:

Farleigh Hungerford to Freshford = 2 miles
Farleigh Hungerford to Great Elm = 6 miles
Farleigh Hungerford to Stroud = 30 miles
Farleigh Hungerford to Ruardean = 39 miles

I don’t know who made the Genuki website, but can I just say “Thank you”. I find it wonderfully useful, especially for ascertaining the distance between villages that I have never heard of!

UKgirl

The name "Mary White Bath" appears 3 times on the marriage record. That does not suggest a error.

But in trying to track down Mary, you give her burial as 1835 aged 78, thus born around 1757. This seems to be unlikely – not impossible, but unlikely.

Free Reg shows Abraham HARPER (father Moses) baptised on 19 Apr 1767 in Farleigh Hungerford.

So, when he married in 1791, he would have been aged around 24 (if baptised as a baby). It seems unlikely that a 24-year-old man would marry a woman 10 years older. Not impossible, but unlikely.

I would guess that Mary was probably born much later than 1757.

UKgirl

Good news for DianaCanada

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2972/records/2861770?tid=&pid=&queryId=2a50adac-73df-43c4-88d6-21b732c9e370&_phsrc=Rmb202&_phstart=successSource

1831 Christ Church, Hulme baptisms (same page)

1831 Feb 9, Samuel son of Joseph and Ellen Hibbert, born Jan 11 at Jackson's Lane, Hulme
1831 Feb 13, John son of George and Margaret Kilgow, born Jan 29 at Christ Church Square, Hulme

These 2 baptisms are next to each other (consecutive) on the same page.

[Samuel's record is a bit tricky to read, because at a later time, the church has squeezed in another baptism in tiny writing between the lines (that of Thomas son of David & Mary Mordock?).]

Also, similar to the Kilgour children that I have listed above, Samuel Hibbert also has a later baptism at the Cathedral on Dec 18th.

It seems clear that there was a strong connection between these 2 familes (sons the same age, families close neighbours, attending the same church).

There is not doubt that the George Kilgour who was a witness to the 1829 marriage of Joseph Hibbert is this same George Kilgour, father of Emma and co.

UKgirl