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Messages - Geoff West Derby

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Denbighshire / Re: Llanelidan/Llanfair DC
« on: Saturday 30 April 11 17:12 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Peter, Maria doesn't feature in my tree.

Geoff

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Denbighshire / Re: Hannah PRICE, Llanynys, 1891 Census
« on: Monday 25 April 11 20:37 BST (UK)  »
I've been reading up about him on the internet, a very interesting man. He would have been connected to the right people to get someone trained and employed as a maid, but I don't want to jump to conclusions to make the people fit the story. The tale is that Hannah was 'sold' to a family (she was one of 10 children) and that the clergyman didn't approve.

We got the story from someone who actually knew her in the 1940's and 50's when she lived as a widow in Yscifiog, in a cottage behind the Fox Inn. I think the area needs another visit......

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Denbighshire / Re: Pool Park, Efenechtyd
« on: Sunday 24 April 11 13:24 BST (UK)  »
The house is still there and inhabited, I was there last week. I just need to get my head round its origins. Thanks for the very handy hints though, I've got a couple more places still to find and it should save me hours. Cheers!

Geoff

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Denbighshire / Re: Pool Park, Efenechtyd
« on: Sunday 24 April 11 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Hannah PRICE, my grandmother, was born on Christmas Day 1880 at Coed-y-Ganwen Bach (1881 Census and Birth Cert.) which, from the geography of the area, seems to have been some sort of lodge/gatehouse of Pool Park. Her father, David PRICE, was a game-keeper and her mother Ellinor ROBERTS was a cook.

I would be interested and grateful if anyone could confirm my theory of a connection between the address and/or people to Pool Park.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llanelidan/Llanfair DC
« on: Sunday 24 April 11 12:06 BST (UK)  »
I visited the chapel at Llaneliden earlier this week. Although now closed, it is in good condition with a tiny beautifully maintained graveyard. Most headstones are legible and I found both my GG Grandfathers (PRICE and ROBERTS) buried virtually side by side. Well worth a visit.

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Denbighshire / Re: Hannah PRICE, Llanynys, 1891 Census
« on: Saturday 23 April 11 12:09 BST (UK)  »
The location Tyn-y-Llwn seems spot on for the area. Hannah was born on Christmas Day 1880 at Coed-y-Ganwen Bach (1881 Census- I've seen the house), which then seems to have been part of the Pool Park Estate. The family story is that David PRICE was gamekeeper at Ruthin Castle at some point and his wife Ellinor (nee ROBERTS) was the cook.

Rhewl Station looks like it had a bridge, perhaps there was a level crossing nearby. There is an information board at Rhewl which describes Emrys Ap Iwan, a local minister from that period, who appeared to be a philanthropic character and may have been the one who took her under his wing. Hannah's parents originated from Llaneliden and may GG Grandfathers are both buried in the tiny chapel graveyard there.

Chapel records next, and perhaps a look at the clergyman. Thank you so much for your help, I'm now making real progress.


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Denbighshire / Hannah PRICE, Llanynys, 1891 Census
« on: Friday 22 April 11 12:10 BST (UK)  »
My grandmother, Hannah PRICE (b. 1880) is recorded as living with parents David & Ellinor PRICE at Llanynys, Denbighshire. (the typed copy of the census shows her as 'Hank' PRICE - not a Welsh lady's name!). The street address is Tynllwyn. Does anyone know if it still exists? I've just spend 3 days in the area and uncovered a story that as a child, she operated a level crossing gate at Rhewl. Could that be it? I found the location of the crossing, now long gone.

We were also told that a local clergyman rescued her from her situation and had her trained as a maid. She subsequently arrived in Liverpool and remained in service until marrying my grandfather and settling in Bootle. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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