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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Wednesday 27 April 11 18:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Emmie,
Looks like your family are related to the Thomas Colsh who married Anne Tyrell and then Margaret Brady and lived in Cloncon. I was hoping that there was a link to Thomas Colsh who married Catherine Gavan (Gavin) and lived in Puttaghan. He was my great grand father. I think that louislou 225 is probably right - the Thomases could be cousins, both marrying within 5 years of each other. Crucially, to verify that link I need to find out the names of the siblings of Thomas and/or of William, his father. Uptil now I have been unsuccessful.
Thomas and Catherine were marred in 1865 and  had 7 children, Thomas, Margaret, William, Catherine, Patrick, Elizabeth and Annie, my grandmother. She moved to Scotland in 1902/3 after my great grandfather Thomas's death in 1902. Thomas, my great grandfather was born around 1832 in Tullamore.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Saturday 16 April 11 13:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shane,

Many thanks for your help.
My family connection is with the Thomas Colsh who married Catherine Gavan in 1965. Since I am just starting to research my Irish side I have been using largely Census 1901 and 1911 information and assumption. Only William and Patrick, as well as my grandmother Annie, were referred to in 1901. Their ages led me to believe T & C were married later. Also great to know of the births of Thomas and Margaret before William, also Catherine after him. My grandmother Annie was born 1888/9.
I was hoping to identify brothers and/or sisters of Thomas, the father, as well as his mother and father.
Another approach indentified by your data is to find where Catherine and Margaret went or who they married.

Early/mid 19th c BDM information is essential if I am to progress. Is it easily available and where can it be accessed? Hope you can help.

Thanks to all for bearing with me as a novice at this intriguing game. John





Where can I access BDM information

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Friday 15 April 11 19:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lorraine,
Just read your second message. Sorry, I was hoping that Mary Anne, your relative, was the niece of Thomas Colsh who married Catherine Gavan. From what you have said this doesn't appear to be the case. But likely to be more indirectly related.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Friday 15 April 11 19:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lorraine,
Looks like the Mary Anne's are not connected, but thanks for detailing your knowledge of the Colch family. You seem to have spent a substantial amount of time researching. Your helpful advice will save us a lot of time but seems likely that we will run into a dead end like yourself.

You make an interesting point referring to Thomas Colsh who married Catherine Gavan, also the names of my great grand father/mother. Their only daughter was Annie, my grand mother. There was a Mary Kate staying with them in 1901. She was the niece of Margaret.  Margaret and Thomas probably married between 1870 and 1876
Seems a coincidence but looks like there are two families with heads Thomas and Catherine Gavin.

As I said earlier, I am due to spend week in Tullamore end of May with my mother and sister. Would be helpful if you could provide a contact reference for the local historian you previously mentioned.

Hope you can help.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 19:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Louis,

Does your research indicate that the Mary Anne, who you refer to as your relative, is the daughter of Margaret and sister of Joseph and Thomas who lived in Cloncon in 1901. They lived a adjacent to Patrick and Kate. I assume that Margaret and Patrick were brother and sister
I was hoping that this family was related to the Colshes at Puttaghan whose name was also spelt with an 's'. These two families were the only Colshes referred to in the 1901 Census.
My great grand father Thomas Colsh lived in Puttaghan not far from Cloncon, so I understand, and he was around the same age as Margaret and Patrick.  Do you know whether they had a brother Thomas. He died on 1902 aged around 71.
After his wife Catherine's death, shortly after, the family left Ireland, my Grandmother to Scotland and William and Patrick elsewhere. In 1901 William was 25 so is unlikely to be the same William you refer to as a pilot in US.
Do you know if there are easily accessible emigration records available?



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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Colch ex Tullamore
« on: Sunday 10 April 11 18:55 BST (UK)  »
My grandmother is Annie Colsh daughter of Thomas and Catherine Colsh, of Puttaghan referred to in 1901 census. She was 13 then and left for Scotland shortly after her mother and father died around 1902. Can't find her two brothers William and Patrick in the 1911 census nor Mary Kate Gavin her cousin who was staying with the family in 1901. Does any one know where they went?
 
Also whether as seems likely the Colshes Of Cloncun, Cappincar are of same family; that's Patrick and Kate (brother and sister) and Margaret with her two sons, Thomas and Joseph and daughter Mary Anne, since they only other Colshes in 1901 and live close by. By 1911 Margaret and sons were living in the house previously occupied by Patrick and Kate. By that time their names had changed to Colch. There were no sign of any other Colshes in the County in 1911.

Trying to trace Colsh or Colch relatives. Will be over in Tullamore in May/June for my mothers 90th.
Hope someone can help since I've run into a dead end.
 

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