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Warwickshire / Re: On finding the real EDWARD ASHWIN!
« on: Tuesday 15 January 13 03:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Marie,

Been in touch they do have a list of monument inscriptions but the only Ashwin they have is for Caroline Elizabeth ASHWIN d Oct. 30 1876 aged 43. In saying that I understand there are quite a number that they were unable to read.

The burial records are kept at the Warwick Records Office where I intended to visit anyway.

Again many thanks for your trouble, and if I find anything I will be in touch.

regards
Max

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Warwickshire / Re: On finding the real EDWARD ASHWIN!
« on: Saturday 12 January 13 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Marie,

Thanks for all your information on MRA's daughter Helen. Somewhere in my information I have noted she was also called Nellie and her son Leslie Frederick Robinson was a known poet and author in Australia.

My Grandmother was Mabel Ashwin who was married to my Grandfather William Keith Preece on the 8th Sept 1898 in Christchurch at Hagley House. I'm planning a trip to the UK later this year to look around the areas where they lived. Do you have any information on where Edward Ashwin is buried in Bidford?

Regards
Max


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Warwickshire / Re: On finding the real EDWARD ASHWIN!
« on: Friday 11 January 13 07:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have a little more information on Helen Ashwin, she was also known as Ellen and quite prominent in Christchurch with her school for young ladies. 
Miss Ellen Ashwin opened a private school called Hagley House at the cnr of Armagh St. & Park Tce in 1864.
It was later sold to (date unknown) Mrs John Crosbie and her sister Adele Fruchs and called Montflueri School for young ladies.
This building was subsequently sold to Sir and Lady Wigram who later sold it to Christs College.
The site has now been developed into luxury townhouses and the coach house converted into garages. 
I am uncertain what happened to the buildings during the Christchurch earthquakes.

I have also this extract:
Little Akaloa, Charlton and Menzies Bay school centennial:
1862-1962 souvenir booklet
The first school in the area was that of Mrs Carter with her cottage Dames school. Another was the private school run by M.Ashwin and his sisters, but unfortunately all the records on these have been lost.



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Warwickshire / Re: On finding the real EDWARD ASHWIN!
« on: Monday 27 August 12 03:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Martin Richard Ashwin is also my GGrandfather. I believe he was bankrupted in 1862 and that may have lead to them coming out to NZ.  I have a son Theodore Craven Ashwin born 1855, and a Craven Ashwin shows on the shipping list when they came out to NZ in 1863.  MRA was bankrupted in 1867 and spent 12 months in prison.  In 1879 he bought a Mill in Decanter Bay.
Extract from Decanter Bay from 'Banks Peninsula - People and Places by Ian Menzies - Canterbury Museum
"When the cream of the timber had been cut the mill was sold to M.R.Ashwin and operated further up the valley on land owned by the estate of James Cooke. The nine-roomed house and the mill were destroyed by fire in 1879 in suspicious circumstance. Mrs Ashwin and her son were charged with arson and acquitted in June that year for want of conclusive evidence". I understand the son in question was Martin.
MRA became bankrupt again in 1870. Some time around 1886 they moved to Wairoa in the North Island where his wife Emma Ashwin was a storekeeper and she was bankrupted in 1888. Records show MRA residing in Wellington in 1890 and then Wanganui in 1894 and we know MRA was buried in Hautapu cemetery in Cambridge.
The following is the inscription on the Ashwin headstone
In loving memory of
Martin R. Ashwin
died 28th Feb 1901
aged 69 years
also
Martin E. Ashwin
died 28th Nov 1902
aged 43 years
also Cecil Stanley Ashwin
died 30 April 1904
aged 22 years
also
Emma Priscilla Ashwin
died 2nd May 1916
aged 80 years

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Worcestershire / Re: Help with Elizabeth WHEELER her father and ancestors
« on: Wednesday 30 March 11 05:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi, If you would like to email me directly I can send you some more detailed information

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Worcestershire / Re: Help with Elizabeth WHEELER her father and ancestors
« on: Monday 28 March 11 04:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Snap I am also a direct descendant of Martin R Ashwin. His daughter Mabel (May) was my grandmother.


Sailed out on the Sebastopol
Sailed London 17th January 1863 - arrived Lyttelton 21st May 1863
Cabin Passengers            
   
Second Cabin            
Ashwin   Helen         
   Mary         
Ashwin   Sarah E. Wheeler         
Ashwin    Martin         
   Emma         
   Craven         
   Helen         
   Mary         
   Martin         
   Lilly   

I have a note that says Sarah Elizabeth Wheeler daughter of Eliz brother Richard, also came out with them and on this shipping list I think there is an error in the shipping list and it should be Ashwin Elizabeth and Wheeler Sarah E.

Subsequent children or M R A and Emma born in NZ were;
Esther, Jane, Edith, Charles, Manley, Leonard, James, Clara, Mabel, Jessie, Darcy and Cecil - Emma was around 45 when Cecil was born, some family. 
There is also a Sarah E Ashwin born 1862 and died the same year.   


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Worcestershire / Re: Help with Elizabeth WHEELER her father and family
« on: Sunday 27 March 11 02:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi, yes that is the right Elizabeth, you most probably have all this but, she came to NZ with her two daughters Helen and Mary Anne (Marion) son Martin Richard, his wife Emma Priscilla Copson and their children at the time, Theodore Craven, Martin Edward and Lily Fiddian and settled in Christchurch. Elizabeth Wheelers husband Edward Ashwin died around the age of 45 but I'm not sure where or the exact date and have presumed its at Cookhill. I have a copy of a letter that infers that Edwards father was Thomas Ashwin of Tower Hill, Bidford Stratford Upon Avon and had four sons and a daughter; Manley, Edward, William, Thomas and Caroline. Manley settled at Honeybourne, Edward at Cookhill, William to Willersley and Thomas remained at Tower Hill with his father and his fathers maiden sister.  It also states that Thomas senior married the daughter of John Manley esquire of Charlecote Manor and Honeyborne Farm estates. I have found a Thomas Ashwin marrying a Hester Manley 20 April 1719 at Church Honeybourne but the dates don't correlate to the Edward\Elizabeth Wheeler union.

regards

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Worcestershire / Re: Help with Elizabeth WHEELER her father and family
« on: Saturday 26 March 11 01:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
The web site below may throw some light on the Rimels and Eliz Wheeler.  I am also trying to trace her husband Edward and his father - with some difficulty.  Eliz obituary states that Edward was from Cockhill House Gloucestershire which I am having difficulty finding and I believe was given to him by his father Thomas?

http://rimellgenealogy.blogspot.com/2006/03/ws-3-john-rimell-1733-1805.html
 
When you ask for more information in her family are you looking for that in NZ or her descendants?

regards

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