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New Zealand / Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« on: Sunday 13 July 25 13:12 BST (UK)  »
Hello again.

The STAR November 30th, 1933, page one, records the death of retired farmer David YOUNG “at his residence" not lodgings, 12 Hawdon Street Sydenham.

I would like to know how he is entered in electoral rolls before 1933, if his address is given as Hawdon Street Sydenham.  As I am yet to get my hands on deposit plans DP 36944, and DP 37202, with the units therein, which appear to involve some conjoint land ownership over original survey lots, or part lots, that historically used 10, 12, and 14 Hawdon Street, as their street address after 1909.

Has anyone got access to NZ electoral roll data addresses, as I do not? Also how was Miss J WELSH listed until 1962.

From home accessible data, it is evident that the William WELSH property on Hawdon Street, was from 1903 to 1909 listed with a street address, recorded as 100, and thereafter as 12 Hawdon Street until 1963, after his daughter Jane//Jean WELSH, passed in 1962. Classified adds indicate a complete reversal of Hawdon street numbering from December 1909.

On to days maps of ratable Sydenham properties, 12 Hawdon Street is north of it’s intersection with Maldon, formerly Matson Street, Sydenham. Yet I find it hard to reconcile a small cottage, within a 1961 Retrolenz aerial photo.

In 1963 the cottage was listed as a very presentable small cottage of 2 living rooms, 2 bedrooms, a bathroom and a kitchenette. As was common with the original workers homes in that area, toilet, washhouse, and storage sheds, were separate buildings in the back yard.

Wm WELSH had a blacksmith business at Pleasant Point, near Timaru,  trading as WELSH & SMITH c. 1880 – 1899, before moving to Sydenham. His wife Rhoda WELSH was a respected hardworking mother of 10 children, seven of whom attained adulthood.

At Hawdon Street, she regularly advertised her services as a domestic cleaner, and or washer woman, and upon the death of her husband William, although caring for an invalid daughter, also advertised offering a bedroom for one or more boarders.

Alan.

Correction. Dates changed from 1961 & 1962 to 1962 & 1963. Late night typos.

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New Zealand / Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« on: Friday 04 July 25 04:01 BST (UK)  »
And finally [?] from me.

Today over a cuppa I finally found, and tapped into, local authority data like I am able to do so for the regions in the North Island, that are local to me.

It proves that the lot I was looking at/for, has been subdivided, and then subdivided again. With cross leasing etc, and more recent subdividing than was the case from 1900 to 1960, it is possible for more than one business or dwelling, to be sharing the same street address. Why land title data is so important when trying to place historic family connections to land.

Alan.

PS. Swapped image.

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New Zealand / Re: Trying to identify this chap
« on: Friday 04 July 25 02:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi again.

I will post a couple of blazers that were of interest when I first started looking.

The silver fern on the rugby, blazer is very similar in shape and placement. Both have NEW ZEALAND across the top of the pocket, and occasion/event event below the fern logo.

Alan.

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New Zealand / Re: Trying to identify this chap
« on: Friday 04 July 25 01:35 BST (UK)  »
Ok two more clippings to assist with making the call. I too have reservations.

What I found different, was the white trim to the blazer, and I do not consider that very common, yet A. J. GRIFFITHS, team manager photographed with Mr LESLIE, was wearing one that also had a silver fern on the pocket.

Alan.

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New Zealand / Re: Trying to identify this chap
« on: Thursday 03 July 25 21:15 BST (UK)  »
Ladies you are great team players.

Alan

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New Zealand / Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« on: Wednesday 02 July 25 21:23 BST (UK)  »
Morning all.

My typo this time. The Sydenham Drainage plans clip in post #14, has an added blue credit line reading NZ Copyright Act 1907, but that should read Copyright Act 1994.   

1907 was the date that the survey plan, and its highlighted area to be included in their drainage catchment was published.

Alan.

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New Zealand / Re: Trying to identify this chap
« on: Wednesday 02 July 25 13:04 BST (UK)  »
Have attempted to zoom in x4 on the blazer pocket.

It appears to show a silver fern leaf across the outline of a shield.

Alan.

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New Zealand / Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« on: Wednesday 02 July 25 12:59 BST (UK)  »
High again Blacksmithy.

I hope you have given yourself enough time for research when you visit the Legacy Archives.

STONES 1910 directory that included greater Christchurch and other South Island locations reportedly contains nearly 1,500 pages. Up 100 from it's previous publication. But I can not find any advertising material promoting the need for a copy of the latest edition, due to changes in the system of numbering street addresses.  But change they did.

Happy hunting

Alan.

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New Zealand / Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« on: Wednesday 02 July 25 06:37 BST (UK)  »
When I typed that I was thinking that possibly there had been a typo, in the production of the printed electoral roll, as I had done limited research to tie into the Retrolenz photos.

But when I made PM contact with Blacksmithy, I was informed that the street directories for a considerable number of years had been consulted when trying to track down family members. They clearly showed a dramatic change in the numbers associated with residents on Hawdon Street.

Yet to find any press coverage of the changes and the reason behind such change.

Upon rereading my post I realized I was not very specific, about where I assumed a typo may have been made. So posted the apology.

Alan.

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