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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Friday 30 June 17 11:31 BST (UK)  »
HI    WDFraser
Some very detailed info here and extremely helpful with dates etc. I will keep a note of it all and see how far I get. I tried to send you a PM, not sure if I was successful. You can get back to me if it was and I can always share my email address at that point, or continue using PM.

Irene

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Friday 30 June 17 11:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi GordonF
Thanks for your contribution. It would be interesting to find out how long your grandfathers family stayed at the farm. The name of the lady you mentioned was Fraser-Tytler, the occupant of Aldourie House. I will check the census to see if the other female's name is mentioned. You didn't note your grandfathers family name. Even if not related still useful to help identify people at different times and their location. Could you share the photo?  No problem if not.

Thanks, Irene

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 08:02 BST (UK)  »
To Br1gau
I note your response was some years ago so sorry. I missed it. However your idea was totally correct!  It appears that this adopting another middle name was commonplace to distinguish yourself from someone else of the same name. Probably the very reason you suggested. Yes John seems to have adopted the Edward, again a family name from the past. He came to a very sad end in that he and his sister were involved in an accident in 1914/15 from which they each suffered from broken bones and then gangrene from which they both died. Thank you for your suggestion. 

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your response to my request. I came to a halt a couple of years ago because I needed to go into this branch of the Frasers, and there are so many Frasers it was difficult to identify which ones were which. I have the Fraser family tree on Ancestry and so you are welcome to look at it. It is under Moodie2. I have started up again looking back at the early 1800s. You given me lots of clues so it shouldn't be too difficult to move on to the next stage. The James who was the blacksmith was my gg grandfather. (1802-1881). His oldest son Thomas (1834-1921) was also a blacksmith and lived in Errogie. the house and smiddy was only recently demolished. My plan for this coming winter was to dig a bit deeper into the period between 1746 and 1830 just to establish genuine links. I know there were a number of Fraser families at Balnafoich around 1800.  I would like to keep in touch with you so we could share what information we have of this period. I will look up the people you have mentioned and see exactly if and where they fit in. Perhaps I should add that I was brought up in Inverness and knew my great aunts and of course my grandfather. One of my great aunts did not die until 1974, she was in her 90s. They visited and stayed with their grandparent in Dores village at times.

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 18:30 BST (UK)  »
thank you to you both for your interesting info. Poor Lily Fraser, no relation,  - she seemed so bright in 2001 with the new computer being installed. In the article she mentions the elderly, former postmistress (82) and then 12 years later Lily is in care and passes in her sleep.  Really sad how quickly time passes by.
This PO is the new one that was built - probably had electricity and running water. When she talks about the original post mistress ( gosh 60 years ago must have been just post war!) this was surely for the new building.
Interesting re John's name - I had though in the records it was a C (as Cleather was a family name) so the E was a surprise. I must look back at the Church records and see if  he was given two names at the christening.

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 15:49 BST (UK)  »
As you know in the late 1800s engineering was growing and Inverness had some important works.
Northern Agricultural Implement Foundry Co. 1872-1895
Rose Street Foundry & Engineering Co. 1895-1945
As a blacksmith then described as a Springsmith in 1891 (see link http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spring-Smith), Donald wouldn't have needed all the agro from fighting with his brother..and one would reason that as you say he would wait until his mother died (1892) . He would have had to transfer his blacksmith skills into something very skilled. His brother, Thomas, was not only a master blacksmith but invented various pieces of agricultural machinery, therefore it does not seem strange that Donald would seek a challenge. In the family most of the men in 2 generations were engineers of some sort.
Re the PO in Dores. If you look at the old photo of the PO and then at the Inn you will see that there is a space between them. That is were the James Fraser's smithy was. It was demolished though I am unsure when. Possibly after James died. Anyway thank you again for your input. All the info helps me to create a timeline and place family members and their events within it.

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Renfrewshire / Moodie/Moody Renfrewshire help
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 12:59 BST (UK)  »
The earliest record of my father's family is of Alexander Moodie (b possibly 1820) who is resident in Neilston. He married a local girl, Janet Millar in 1847 and had 3 children 1849 Jane; 1851 William; 1852 Alexander. He is listed as a Blockprinter. His wife also worked in the cotton industry in Barrhead.

There are no census details for him although there are for Janet and children. A Moodie relative did a DNA test and we have found that there is a connection with someone in US. This was for a generation around 1800. Part of a Moody (note sp) family in Ireland  set off for Canada. Many of that family moved to the US and there are now many Moody's from the family there.

 The Moodie males in Scotland are Alexander/William/. Over a number of generations the males die early from heart disease. There is no indication why  Alexander disappeared. Did he die (no death cert)?, did he go back to Ireland? did he emigrate and leave his wife and children behind? did he leave with someone else.

I wonder if anyone has info about birth details, families that came to Scotland from Ireland around 1800.

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 12:28 BST (UK)  »
I checked up Donald and obtained the relevant certs. His wife Johan died in 1926 and he was still alive then so unsure where he went after that.

You mentioned another website. The author of that site is in contact with me and we tend to share most of our new info. I see there is some data still to updated on it. It is unlikely that our James Fraser was not in Craig Dunain. There is another James Fraser, similar age, from same area who was termed a 'lunatic' on his death cert.

I note you also have the story re Donald and James. I checked with the various census and have the following problems with it. Father dies in 1881, Donald not living there at that point - Mother still living there and James running the blacksmith's business. If a property is rented then how can someone say the house is 'his' or someone elses. The mother would be the one who was 'Head' of the house. Knowing the family history - ie members who were born in 1878 and 1882 - and how they lived their lives, there would have been a considerable respect for the parent. I checked the census and found another 2 Fraser families (blacksmith's) in the area who had a Donald and James of similar ages. So there has to be some doubt about which family to which the story refers.

I really appreciate you taking time to uncover so much material which is so helpful in building up a background picture. Thank you.

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Inverness / Re: James, Donald, John Fraser of Dores Invernessshire
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the photos - I wonder if that is the postmistress outside the PO or just an incidental photo for the cottage and view? 

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