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Richard19 - does Winifred Frader’s signature on the 1914 marriage look similar to the signature on the 1902 marriage of Edith Winifred Gamage 19,  Father Elias, butcher

This is  a good idea, checking the signature, it is quite distinctive

This birth can be downloaded as a PDF for £3
Hopefully mother registered the birth.
GRO index
THOMAS, WILLIAM  GLYN  mmn GAMAGE  GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in SWANSEA 
   

Maybe not. Doesn't the registrar fill the details in, So no signature of mother.

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1901.
Elias Gamage50Head
Trevor Wilk Gamage 24Son
Sarah Annie Gamage 20Daughter xxx
Winnifred Edith Gamage 17Daughter
Edw Obery Gamage13Son

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1911
William Merrells31Head
Sarah Annie Merrells30Wife
Stanley Merrells5Son


1921
William Merrells41 Years 7 MonthsHead
Sarah Annie Merrells40 Years 5 MonthsWife
Stanley William Merrells15 Years 9 MonthsSonI
Ivor John Merrells13 Years 4 MonthsSon
Amy Margaret Merrells9 Years 3 MonthsDaughter
Sidney Glyn Merrells7 Years 6 MonthsSon
Ivor Merrells3Son

So not as I thought it  could be Winifreds sister . It was worth a go.
Finished for 2025 now.  ;D

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1901.
Elias Gamage50Head
Trevor Wilk Gamage 24Son
Sarah Annie Gamage 20Daughter xxx
Winnifred Edith Gamage 17Daughter
Edw Obery Gamage13Son

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Richard19 - does Winifred Frader’s signature on the 1914 marriage look similar to the signature on the 1902 marriage of Edith Winifred Gamage 19,  Father Elias, butcher

This is  a good idea, checking the signature, it is quite distinctive

This birth can be downloaded as a PDF for £3
Hopefully mother registered the birth.
GRO index
THOMAS, WILLIAM  GLYN  mmn GAMAGE  GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in SWANSEA  
    

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Maybe Winifred thought Frader was a nicer name than Gamage, Elias as her father sounds pretty good, did she say he was deceased ?

Just a few weeks after the marriage. Not much help really. Winifred could just have been staying there,  or possibly the prevous housemaid waitress and had now  left.

North Wales Chronicle 9 April 1914

Wanted young Girl, 18, to attend to children also young person, about 24, as
House maid 'Waitress; references required. — Apply, Mrs Brennan, Friars House, High-street, Bangor

APARTMENTS TO LET "FRIARS HOUSE" BOARDING Establishment, large comfortable rooms, every accommodation; special cuisine; terms reasonable.—Full particulars, apply, Mrs Brennan, High-street, Bangor.

Happy New Year from Wales  :)

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Name   Constance Catherine Paget
Marriage Age   25
Marriage Date   17 Apr 1923
Marriage Place   Worcester St Martin-in-the-Cornmarket, Worcestershire, England
Father  Charles John Paget
Spouse  Walter Massie Aldersey
both fathers were Gentlemen

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More.
 Canada, Quaker Meeting Records, Minutes, 1912-1967  Possibly 1915
Bateman Hutchinson 121 Langley Street , Victoria BC

in 1921 census  The Hutchinsons  were at Nanaimo  on the east coast of Vancouver Island, in British Columbia, Canada. Bateman was a land surveyor, so probably moved around with his work. About 110 km from Victoria

Adelaide departed from Montreal, Quebec, Canada on October 26, 1923 to visit England. She arrived on Nov 2, 1923 and her proposed address while there was Craven Hotel, Craven Road, London

Francis Forester Paget engineer aged  51 departure Montreal arrival date 2 November 1923 Arrival Liverpool
Ship Montrose.    145919. Destination Craven Hotel, Craven Street .
Entry 76 . Adelaide was Entry 50. They arrived on the same ship , same date and were going to the same hotel.
Is this just an amazing coincidence, did they already know each other ?

Adelaide lived and married in Victoria, British Columbia,
Bateman Hutchinson  is buried in Banff, Canmore Census Division, Alberta.
Published in the Crag & Canyon, Banff, Alberta where Bateman died - November 21, 1930
".... his full obituary and at end Deceased leave a widow and one son Clifford, to mourn his loss."
 Why did he died in Banff, was he working there. He was 52.  It`s a very big headstone,

!931 Adelaide  or Clifford  are not  found.

In 1931 census taken June 1st 1931
Glenshill , Victoria. There were about 28 people there , mostly born England, but 5 Chinese servants.
Head Violet M Allen
Francis F Paget  58 single lodger b England

Marriage  2 Nov 1931    Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Francis Forester Paget Age 59 Birthplace   Leicestershire, England    Bachelor
Adelaide Hutchinson widow
Only 12 months after Batemans death and 7 years after they were on the same ship going to the same hotel.

On 24 September 1938  a Clifford Hutchinson  student 22 arrived in Southampton from Canada .
He was going to Mr H Calvert 35A Nevern Square , London SW5 .
Is this Adelaide`s son. This address had quite a few  boarding houses  along with quite well of residents.

Clifford Bateman Hutchinson
Topic   Crime Residence Date   25 Jun 1956
Residence Place   Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Publication Date   25 Jun 1956 Newspaper Title   Times Colonist
I don’t have access to this.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Name   Francis Forester Paget Death Date   6 Oct 1950
Death Place   British Columbia Probate Date 21 May 1951 Probate RegistryVictoria
Probate Victoria to Adelaide Paget Constance  Catherine Aldersey and Walter Massie Aldersey.
Effects £38700 0s 1d in England, Sealed London 21 May

Didn`t Adelaide do well  :)

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The Common Room / Re: Baptism record
« on: Sunday 28 December 25 15:21 GMT (UK)  »
Genuki . This might help find a possible one, depending on where you were born and possibly where your parents married.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/church_list/82325

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Ireland / Re: Ireland BMD
« on: Sunday 28 December 25 15:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip.

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