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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Sunday 13 March 11 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Yes - I agree.
I also have Bendall, Hart, Shipp... so we are probably multi- related!

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
At the time of the en bloc baptisms of Philip and his siblings in 1801, I believe that it WAS a legal requirement that marriages had to be in the Parish Church - but NOT that children had to be baptised in Parish Churches.   This is why some baptisms are untraceable, where the original Non Conformist records are lost, or where families just didn't bother.  I suspect that a new broom (Vicar) may have arrived in Bottisham and decided to sweep up the unbaptised. 

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 19:55 GMT (UK)  »

We must be decended from the different lines of Cornwells which I have tried so hard to prove are connected - but cannot.  This is my line:
PHILIP2 CORNWELL born 1798 married ANN AYRES, daughter of JOHN AYRES and SUSAN WEBB. Notes for PHILIP CORNWELL:
In the 1841 census Philip is listed as a publican.  Although he was baptised in 1801along with his brothers John and William, and sister Mary Ann, census data shows that he was born in 1798.  In the 1851 he was receiving Parish relief, which means he was probably ill.  By 1861 he had returned to work.  A news report in 1870 tells of an accidental fire at John King's destroying 5 cottages, the greatest loser being an old roadman, Philip Cornwell . No pensions in those days...
   
Children of PHILIP CORNWELL and ANN AYRES are:
   i.   EMMA3 CORNWELL, b. 30 Mar 1828; m. RICHARD RAYMENT, 25 Dec 1844, Bottisham England
   ii.   LEVI CORNWELL, b. 30 Mar 1828; m. SARAH PETTIT, 21 Mar 1857, Bottisham England; b. 1836.
3.   iii.   WILLIAM CORNWELL, b. 29 Sep 1829, Bottisham  England.
   iv.   CHARLES CORNWELL, b. 15 May 1832; m. (1) ELIZABETH AYRES, 1855; m. (2) EMMA HANCOCK, 30 Oct 1857, Bottisham England; b. 1836.
   v.          ELIJAH CORNWELL, b. 14 Nov 1834.
   vi.   ELLIS CORNWELL, b. 08 Jan 1837.
   vii.   URIAH CORNWELL, b. 1842.
   viii.   ZILLAH CORNWELL, b. 1843.
   ix.   JOHN CORNWELL, b. 1847.
3.  WILLIAM3 CORNWELL (PHILIP2, WILLIAM1) was born 29 Sep 1829 in Bottisham  England.  He married  AVIS SHIP 13 Jan 1855.these are my grandmothers grandparents...
I have extracted every reference to Bottisham/Lode Cornwells I could find in the Records Office and can't link my line with the VC one...

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Essex / Re: Little Ashen
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 10:49 GMT (UK)  »
I have an ancestor who was miller at Church Farm, Ashen, before 1806.  I suppose that, as it was a very little place, it was also called Littlle Ashen!  If anyone is having problems finding family info from this village, may I suggest that they also look just over the border into Suffolk, especially in Clare.

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Essex / Re: Little Ashen
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 10:47 GMT (UK)  »
I have an ancestor who was miller at Church Farm, Ashen, before 1806.  I suppose that, as it was a very little place, it was also called Littlle Ashen!  If anyone is having problems finding family info from this village, may I suggest that they also look just over the border into Suffolk, especially in Clare.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 01:01 GMT (UK)  »
In the case of some of the children - ie Philip - we have to remember that the records in the church are not birth records,  they are BAPTISM records. Ergo - I found Philip was baptised with his siblings, who were all different ages.  It was sometimes the case that a Vicar would round up children who had not been christened and do them all at once. 
Philip's date of birth is based on later records - censuses etc- but the baptism records clearly show who Philip's parents were.
Some of the older records give the names in Latin, in others the lack of formal spelling at the time is evidenced in the way the same name is written differently.

I have very copious notes on just about everything in both the Records Office and the Cambridgeshire collection on the Cornwells of Lode.  As yet I have NOT been able to connect Philip's line (from which I descend) with the VC winner.  I suppose it could be said that as they are Cornwells in the same village, the liklihood is that the Cornwells are all related, but proving it enough to say clearly that I am related to the VC winner has proved impossible. I would be delighted if someone could come up with reliable authentic records which make the connection. 

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 00:41 GMT (UK)  »
I forgot to add that the details I have posted are all taken from the original Parish Registers and documents held at Cambridge Records Office.   I recall that there are small original fragments of records which have not been filmed.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Cornwell
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 00:36 GMT (UK)  »
1.  WILLIAM1 CORNWELL  He married ANNE ARBER 1789. 

Notes for WILLIAM CORNWELL:
His children, William, John, Mary Anne and Philip were all baptised in 1801.

There is a bond by a  William Cornwell for the child of Mary Benstead 11 Jan 1812, and they married on 26th May 1812  There were other William Cornwells in Bottisham at the time.  There was the one who married Jane Piper on 22 Apr 1789 in Bottisham, and the one who was christened 22 Mar 1789 to Holmes and Elizabeth Cornwell. ( Somewhere I have some more about Holmes and Elizabeth and a run down of early Cornwells in Bottisham.  The name has been suggested as a corruption of Cromwell - or I suppose, vice versa.  Looking through the registers it is possible to trace the evolution of Cornell from Cornwell (I can just hear a  Lode accented feller telling the Clerk in the Church that his name is Cornwell and swallowing his W... some Cornwells also became Cornwall. )

More About WILLIAM CORNWELL and ANNE ARBER:
Marriage: 1789
   
Children of WILLIAM CORNWELL and ANNE ARBER are:
2.   i.   PHILIP2 CORNWELL, b. 1798.
   ii.   JOHN CORNWELL.
   iii.   MARY ANN CORNWELL, m. WILLIAM OSLAR, 30 Dec 1816, Bottisham England.

More About MARY ANN CORNWELL:   Baptised: 1801, EN BLOC

Notes for WILLIAM OSLAR:
descibed in Bottisham marriage register as "of Waterbeach"

   iv.   SARAH CORNWELL, b. 1802.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Cambridgeshire Bastardy records
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
If you could get to the Records Office in Cambridge, you might get lucky, because often when a child was illegitimate the Parish made an order against the father to support the child - this meant that the father had to support the child and not the Parish.  These records may well be in the Parish Chest documents for Burwell.  I found several such orders in the Parish Chest of Bottisham.

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