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Thank you Lisa,

I found the copy of the Journal of Burwood and District family journal online today dated March 2021.

Thank you for considering the information I supplied regarding my great, great grandparents in your journal. 

Reading the journal, I believe that other's recounts that were discovered after the original research on this ship were accepted without question.  It also mentions that records were not accurately recorded.

My grandfather's birthdate was the date that the Fanny Kirchner arrived in Australia.  In your journal, you have his date of birth incorrect.  They arrived in Australia the same time as the Fanny Kirchner.  From my great grandfather's headstone, his date of birth is exactly the date of the ship arriving in Australia.  In your journal, you mentioned that his parents Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider had on board a daughter also named Elizabeth.  This is not the case as Carl was the first born and a sister named Elizabeth was born later in Australia.

Lisa, the story of my great, great grandparents has been handed down in time.  There is no reason for me to believe otherwise.  Yes, some facts may be inaccurate including small pox, however, everything that was printed in your evidence from the newspapers could of hid the truth, especially the recounts of other passengers that you have acknowledged who passed away and were thrown into sea.  There was no mention of that into the investigation of the Fanny Kirchner in the newspapers available on Trove. A similar story was shared with my family.  My great, great grandfather was unwell and the crew threatened to throw him overboard.  My great, great grandmother stayed awake next to him all night so this didn't happen.  Lisa, there story aligns with the other authors you have found that were also on the Fanny Kirchner. 

Tomorrow, I will share a newspaper article that is not on Trove regarding my great grandfather Carl and his wife's anniversary.  In this, he shares his story of being born on a ship in Port Jackson on that date. 

Lisa, I hope that you can find in your heart to accept that out of love for my family, I would like my ancestors' story acknowledged and accepted.  They never wrote a book or published a memoir of their travels...they just spoke their truth from their heart. 

With the most kindest regards,
Leisa

Dear Leisa,

My apologies, but I have only just seen your post from 10 April 2023.

It was definitely not my intention to upset you, nor is it my intention to argue with you. I understand how precious family memories and stories are. You were obviously extremely close to your much-loved father and have an understandable desire to keep both his memory, and that of your ancestors, alive.

I would very much like to see the newspaper article you mention from the time of your great-grandparents' wedding anniversary. I would imagine it refers to their Golden Anniversary in 1931? (If you have already posted it here on Rootschat, I'm sorry, but I haven't been able to find it.)

The article would add to my knowledge about the "Fanny Kirchner" and the immigrants who arrived aboard her. It may also help to correct any misassumptions I have made in my research.

With regards my article in "Ances-tree" (March 2021), the birth date of 16 Feb 1858 for your great-grandfather Carl is as per the 'Picture Ipswich' website and the (Ipswich) Early Settlers Database website. (You didn't give a date of birth in your posts, as far as I could see, prior to my article being published, and your great-grandfather's headstone does not provide a specific one.)

The daughter, Elisabeth Marie, mentioned in the article, married Henry DAMM and passed away 16 Oct 1879, aged just 23, that is, she was born c.1856

I have never stated that the SCHMEIDERs were not aboard the "Fanny Kirchner" - I have said that, given the information I had to hand, it did not seem likely. With over 200 passengers aboard the "Fanny Kirchner" and approx. half of these unidentified, I am always happy to stand corrected with any of my research.

with kind regards
Lisa

Thank  you  so  much for  your beautiful reply, your  dad    will certainly  be  in the arms  of  those he loved and  has loved  him, may  he rest in peace

Louisa  Maud

Here´s a list of people thanking the Captain.  There´s no Schmeider mentioned

https://vereine.genealogy.net/maus/auswanderung/fanny_kirchner.html

Dave